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Hi all...been having a few problems with boyfriend so asked I Ching if we would be spending Valentines Day together..the answer is 32 no moving lines, can you help with interpretation please, thanks in advance.
 

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"asked I Ching if we would be spending Valentines Day together..the answer is 32 "

Looks like you will.
 
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Just in case the comment could be useful

When the question is a predictive one, I have found mathematical method more accurate than text method.

With mathematical method, if you toss the hexagram on Feb 8th, the the answer is pretty negative.

a) Unchanging hex... there would be no action.
b) When a women ask if she would meet some man, the man is represented by subject line, and his activity is represented by object line.
c) In this case, subject line is line 3, rooster. Same than the day (if you asked on Feb 8th); and object line is on line 6, Dog. If the activity of the man is weak (and in this case is weak because the wood of the month destroys the earth of Dog), the woman wouldn't meet the man.

Of course, if you toss the hex on another day, the interpretation would change.

Best wishes
 

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jesed said:
When the question is a predictive one, I have found mathematical method more accurate than text method.

With mathematical method, if you toss the hexagram on Feb 8th, the the answer is pretty negative.

Of course, if you toss the hex on another day, the interpretation would change.

Huh? Make sense, Jesed. lol You talking about the Yi, or something else?
 

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hi there sorry for my ignorance i am new to all this, and i do not quite understand the method you describe...willowfox seemed to suggest that the hexagram i received,32, was positive, are you saying i should ask nearer to the day?
 

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FWIW Rain I would take the 32 unchanging as telling you things will continue pretty much as they have been. If you think over the relationship so far and how his behaviour has been to you, looks like it will continue that way. So in the context of this is he is likley to spend valentines day with you if he thinks its important to you ? IOW I think you'll know the answer to your question if you think of his behaviour so far.
 

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trojan said:
FWIW Rain I would take the 32 unchanging as telling you things will continue pretty much as they have been. If you think over the relationship so far and how his behaviour has been to you, looks like it will continue that way. So in the context of this is he is likley to spend valentines day with you if he thinks its important to you ? IOW I think you'll know the answer to your question if you think of his behaviour so far.

thanks for your reply...well to be honest he has been a little unreliable and distant at times...actually i called a psychic today who said that she thought he wanted to finish things with me...found it very upsetting...however asked the i ching "was she correct about this" the answer i got was hexagram 2 line 3 changing to 15 not too sure how to interpret this can someone help please?
 

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The fanyao of 2.3 (15) is 15.3 (2) which translates from Wilhelm as "the superior man of modesty and merit brings things to conclusion". The actual line 3 of hexagram 2 is about a quiet, hidden influence that has not yet entered the present or entered reality, and so it's actually quite fitting for the subject, a psychic reading. It seems to be saying, "this influence of wanting to conclude matters is entering".

As for 32 unchanging, I thought exactly what Trojan thought. 32 is a symbol of romantic commitment, but the reason why it symbolizes romantic commitment is because it refers to roots that are solidly placed within the earth.

So, this reading is pointing you to the roots of the relationship, and telling you that they have to be dealt with,(unchanging) there is no getting around the deepest issues. You know whether they are strong and enduring or not.
 

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""was she correct about this" the answer i got was hexagram 2 line 3 changing to 15."

Hex 2.3 does seem to suggest that he is gowing away from you, and is perhaps soon ready to go his own way but at the moment he is being very careful not to let you know what his true intentions are. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

Hex 15 suggests that the relationship has gone as far as it can and he is soon ready to carry out his plans, which for him will be a release to something that he feels that has been holding him back.
 

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Thanks for your replies...still not sure about the psychic...to be honest i have called them a few times lately and am getting myself a little confused...another psychic three days ago told me that my partner loved me although he could be moody and that things would eventually be ok...the one i spoke to yesterday said that she thought he wanted to finish with me...could the inconsistency in these psychic readings reflect the changable nature of my partner and his moodiness? Or is it more due to the accuracy of the psychic? Would be pleased to hear your comments am pretty upset and confused right now hence being up at this early (here in UK) hour.
 

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Rainshower- you are aware that a good 90% of the people who advertise themselves as pyschics are full of crap? You can't call people you don't know and just weigh their opinions equally in your life, you have to take responsibility for what you're doing and who you are getting advise from. There are good clairvoyants, but you need to build up a relationship with someone who is trusted over time and use the readings in a non-dependent way.
 

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autumn said:
Rainshower- you are aware that a good 90% of the people who advertise themselves as pyschics are full of crap? You can't call people you don't know and just weigh their opinions equally in your life, you have to take responsibility for what you're doing and who you are getting advise from. There are good clairvoyants, but you need to build up a relationship with someone who is trusted over time and use the readings in a non-dependent way.


yes autumn, i am aware of this...whilst certainly i do believe that psychic ability exists sometimes it is very difficult when in a vulnerable state of mind to tell who is genuine..there is an esoteric shop near me that perhaps i might try as they do one to one readings there where you actually see the reader in person, feel this may be better...but i suppose it could be said that the readers i have consulted so far may be genuine but are seeing different aspects of the situation...as i ching states things are in constant state of change
 

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A good piece advice I once received about psychics is this: If they don't need to advertise, then they're probably pretty good. Look for someone who works privately and gets clients by word of mouth. Then double check with the Yi Jing about them before going.

IMHO if the psychic isn't really psychic, you'd do better to indulge yourself on something tangible like a day spa or a good haircut or some really excellent chocolate, or you could read something you normally wouldn't or go to a museum or get half-price tickets to the theatre. Sometimes the answers come in unexpected places, if you open yourself to the new.
 

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love to do that trojan, but some people find it difficult at times to express their feelings
 

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rainshower said:
love to do that trojan, but some people find it difficult at times to express their feelings

Hah I deleted that post just as you were posting, hmm reason I deleted was cos yes I thought it perhaps a bit of a fatuous remark, if you could ask him I guess you would. :bows:
 
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Mathematical method is another way to interpret Yijing answers. It is not based on text, but on another kind of rules.

As I said, I have found that it is more accurate when the question is a predictive kind of questions.

In order to make the calculations, one needs to know the month and the day when the question was tossed.

In this case, I assume you did the toss the same day when you posted here. So, the calculations was made on that basis. If you didn't make the toss the same day when you posted here; that would be an unaccurate interpretation.

So, what I was saying is: please confirm the day when you got that answer.

Best wishes
 

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Hi trojan...thats ok...but it is an interesting piece of synchronicity that i happened to see your post just before you deleted it just as i was posting...the psychic i talked who said she thought that my partner wanted to finish with me based her answer on the fact that i asked her why he sometimes did not reply to my calls at the moment...it was a very quick reading lasting two minutes. i asked the i ching this same question today "why does he sometimes not answer my calls at the moment" the answer i got was 7 The Army, does that mean he is trying to discipline me? What do you think, oh and thanks jesed, i asked the question about valentines day on the same day i started this thread.
 
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If I understand well, it was February 8th in your local time when you did the question.

In that case, it seems he wouldn't show up in valentine's day.

Hope to be wrong

Best wishes
 

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jesed said:
OK
If I understand well, it was February 8th in your local time when you did the question.

In that case, it seems he wouldn't show up in valentine's day.

Hope to be wrong

Best wishes

hi jesed i would be interested to know how you worked that out...perhaps i should ask the question again today
 

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hi just asked the i ching "would we be together on valentines day" again today, i got the answer hexagram 15 lines 2 and 3 this becomes 7,what do you think this means, thanks
 

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I think it means you should stop asking the Yi the same question every couple of days.

What difference does it make whether you know *now* whether you'll spend Valentine's Day together? Is it curiosity, or is there some action you'll take if you know the answer in advance?
 

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it makes a lot of difference to me, if it is of no interest to you, dobro then please ignore this thread!
 

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it makes a lot of difference to me... if it is of no interest to you, dobro then please ignore this thread!
 

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it makes a lot of difference to me... if it is of no interest to you, dobro,then please ignore this thread!
 

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"hi just asked the i ching "would we be together on valentines day" again today, i got the answer hexagram 15 lines 2 and 3 this becomes 7"

Again, it seems to be saying yes. So, go for it, organise yourself, be enthusiastic and enjoy the day.
 

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rainshower said:
it makes a lot of difference to me, if it is of no interest to you, dobro then please ignore this thread!

It *is* of interest to me, and that's why I asked you a question, in order to get more information so that I could read the results of your consultation better.

It's also of interest to me that you've asked exactly the same question of the Yi twice in three days. You got a result before, and if you'd known how to use it and learn from what it was trying to tell you, you wouldn't have felt the need to consult the oracle again with the same question. It's of interest to me because if you'd handled the first consultation better, you wouldn't be having to go through it all again a couple of days later.

So, since I'm interested in your situation, and since I've taken the time to explain myself more clearly so that you can understand where my question is coming from, I wonder if you'd return the favor? I'll ask again: What difference does it make whether you know *now* whether you'll spend Valentine's Day together? Is it curiosity, or is there some action you'll take if you know the answer in advance?
 

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Don't know why my last post came out four times...did not mean that to happen! Well dobro,what is the problem with asking the question twice in two days, are there any rules about this? i did this simply because jesed suggested that the day on which the question is asked could have a bearing on the answer; i am still learning. And yes, it is important for me to know in advance, this would give me some indication of how my partner was truly feeling about me,do i have to justify my reasons on here?
 

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Rainshower, the problem is that you misinterpreted what Jesed said.
The day on which you asked your question has a bearing (in the mathematical method) on how to interpret the answer. But that doesn't mean that if the answer is negative you should keep on asking on different days in order to get a positive answer.

I really think you are totally spinning your wheels here. If you consider this guy to be your 'partner' I think you should at least have the right to call him and talk to him without having to guess how he is feeling about you and whether he will all of sudden get all romantic for Valentine's.

You have been messaging him, he has not replied. If I were you I would call him and ask him to have a talk. If you can't get him to talk to you, I think you should consider the relationship over.
 

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well, i did call him today and things are going well right now, still do not really understand the mathematical principle for consulting the i ching...surely any answer given sometime before the event is subject to change
 

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