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As Trojina said, it's pretty darn impossible to read one very long block of text. And you might want to consider how much of this info we really need in order to undersand your reading.I hope you could interpret these readings because I am a bit lost to be honest ....
Sorry I posted this on mobile and It is difficult to make a post from a phone, I will edit the OPThere used to be a bug that meant newbies couldn't make paragraphs but that was fixed with the forum move I think.
I didn't realise how important paragraphs are till I found I literally couldn't focus my eyes on huge chunks of text online. I imagine you tried to do paragraphs Brandon but they didn't appear ?
I had found this one girl on a dating application she gave me her number she seemed normal at first well you cant tell someone's problems by talking with them during a few days anyway she started blocking me the first day (for maybe a logical reason, lack of trust from a stranger, but I didnt give anything that would lead her think that I was a bad person) i dont know I even tried to contact her to unblock me but I did, she unblocked me we were chatting a couple of weeks(she told me she had recently breakup with her ex who had cheated on her on a distance relationship) and I saw a pattern she seemed to block me for just having a different opinion about something I found myself apologizing for something I shouldn't have anyway, during this time I learned she was still hoping to come back with her ex and eveb she had plans to marry(yeah at 18y you dont really have plans to marry and have kids, to be honest that isnt the usual behavior in my country, she even told me she thought about suciding when she 3am up with him)
I saw her she said she didn't want me but she has seen a psychiatrist but I blocked her but then what can I do because she won't believe me
'I met a girl, we went out for a few dates then she cooled off..'
also one reason I still might behind her is because iching had told me multiple times if she was someone who should i have a relationship with , and had given me affirmative answers multiple times but perhaps it isnt always constant?
I decided to consult the iching for advice
I asked again if she(by name) was the woman who I should have a relation with(with love, passion, etc)? The answer is 46 line 1 and line 4 changes to 34
Also asked if should be other woman and not her who I should have a relation with reading said hexagram 21 line 4 line 6 changes to hexagram 24
So i asked the iching what should I do about/with her 3 times and i got hexagram 51 line 1 changing to line 16
Then i got an hexagram 41 unchanging then 46.3.5.6 changing to 59
I had asked the iching and the OP has the answer to each question. the most recent was
hexagram 18.1.2 changing to 22 when I asked if I should talk to her today, because even thought she didnt behave coherently with me I feel some steem for her, and she would be open to anything relation I would be too, I think i know the problems I am facing, she has BPD, she doesnt want to accept it but she meets the criteria, and I understand her constantly changing behaviour is due to the disorder, and she only need someone who could support her aswell she needs teraphy to solve her problem
I think you have been blocked and unblocked more times than the average kitchen sink !
Well I know the reason she behaves like this, I am almost certain she has Borderline personality disorder but I didn't know until a couple of weeks agoReadings aside she sounds so unstable I can't see that she could make you happy or that she could even sustain a relationship unfortunately.
You said
The I Ching won't tell you who you 'should' have a relationship with, that is up to you but I see that you mean the readings looked good for having a relationship with her. Sometimes when one asks often especially in the area of romance readings can seem to go haywire.
Well I think most of the readings were favorable regarding having a relationship with her but I believe that there is some underlying issues that aren't mentioned to achieve that point, but in other reading they have been mentioned... the problem withGoing back to earlier readings
This line says one's approaches are received well. Well sometimes she does receive you well and then other times not. I would think it would be pretty hard to have a relationship with her unless you set the boundaries of what you will accept. The reading though just says you are well received.
Perhaps in dealing with these issues you find you have to analyse yourself too, dig deep, bite deep into what you really need. You see your posts are all about what she needs not what you need. Do you think by wanting to be with someone so needy you are heading into a codependent relationship ?
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I think Yi is asking you to examine your own motivations and needs when deciding who to be with. Also is there something about the other relationship you don't want to hear or consider ? 21.6 shows someone blocking their ears, they can't take in more. I don't know about the other woman but I do think the 24 there is asking you to come back to yourself, analyse yourself and think a lot about your needs from your past, your own history.
this sounds like something else It is implied, the only boundary I wouldn't like to be broken is if I she was unfaithful and lying/deceeving, that would break my patience, I wouldnt have a problem dealing with her issues, I think that I could somehow convince her that she should seek psychological teraphy, maybe I am not looking after me, but her well being but the reason I do this is hoping that once she could improve herself she could give me a chance for a relationship, why? because I haven't felt so good ever before with someone, she seemed charming and special the first weeks, but perhaps this is a trait from her personality disorder, and she just tried to mimic me so I was deceived if that would be the case, but if it wasn't I think that she is so sweet if she proposed to.... I dont think there is someone else as I mentioned, unless I have talked to her and I havent noticed that she would be that person, but basically I asked the iching and only mentioned her and someone else who I dont know would could... maybe it could happen in the future? but its interpreation seemed to imply I already knew her...I would think it would be pretty hard to have a relationship with her unless you set the boundaries of what you will accept.
You see you are setting out to help and love a very troubled girl and so all your attention will go to her and none to you. Is that a pattern for you ? Do you think you must always be the one to look after others in order to get love yourself ? You must begin to think not only about her but about yourself. This reading says it's not easy, you have to think hard about this. Were you always the one to help your mum feel okay, is that a pattern for you things like that ? It would be nice to hear how happy this girl makes you, how she makes you feel loved and cared for and happy but you don't say that. All she does is block you and shout at you and then is nice to you. You say you love her and I'm sure you do but can this kind of loving last where you are always on edge worrying about her but no one worrying about you're feeling ?
I know probably I should help myself but I think maybe the only way i could is finding love because is the only way I have feel that I have enough motivation to do anything. I dont know any other woman, and to be honest the only thing that keeps me pursuing her is the feeling I got from those few weeks that I had been in contact with her since then I have been feeling low, and lacking motivation to do most things I should be doing so basically I fell before knowing her.When you ask many times about something like this answers can end up quite meaningless or they will start to refer to your process with Yi.
Maybe the 46.1 is encouraging you to get help. I can't see why any guy would want to be treated like that. But who knows maybe you can help her but the 21.4.6>24 suggests to me you've got more thinking to do especially about the other woman you mentioned.
But do you want to spend your whole life supporting her ? What about you ? I see you have 18.2 'mother's corruption' and again I wonder if you feel you have to be supportive to get love. 18 can often point to the past to show where things that have gone rotten still affect us now. That is why I think you need to think very carefully about what you need from a girlfriend. You don't just want someone to have to look after do you ?
I have been once again blocked by her, by just expressing that she makes me feel good...
Does it depends on her mood on the time of the day?
On Friday it gave me 59 unchanging as if her communication would cease that day? So I am a bit lost should I contact her on friday even though she might get some sudden mood change or would hexagram 59 would refer that her anger towards me would end up dissolving?
Well then how is it possible to have any kind of relationship with her and why do you want one ? If you want pain and misery keep on going, if you want some happiness walk away.
Sorry but I can't see the point of looking at I Ching readings about a relationship when the other person blocks you repeatedly for saying the most innocent of things.
You aren't lost it's just you are willingly trying to have a relationship with someone who is crazy, who blocks you all the time, who you have no idea where you stand with and whose mood determines what happens next. The question is not what is going on in her head but what is going on in yours.
It's hard to do it, specially since sometimes things seemed to go normally but with something as simple as saying what I always feel fine when she would be here, losses her mind due to the aversion of not wanting a relationship at the current time because she cant forget her ex.The more you ask about what's in her head the more confused you will get. You can't live your life by what is happening in her head and if she keeps blocking you doesn't it show she's not much into wanting a relationship with you. Most people if they are repeatedly blocked would walk away. By 'blocked' I guess you mean on this app thing.
Normally one would only block people who have really overstepped the mark but she repeatedly blocks you. That's telling you all you need to know. If you go on after she blocked you then it could look like harassment. I'm not saying it is since you say she sometimes does want to talk to you, but frankly I cannot see why you'd go on with this and in the face of all that I'm not willing to attempt interpretation of readings, I really can't see that you need readings, it's clear when someone repeatedly blocks you you can let them go.
I can't do anything and she is the one who should seek help, but one day she sent me some some psichyatrist ( not a medical institution ) certifyning she was mentally stable, but I mean it was the last year, and secondly, why would anyone need a mental sanity certification on their 18y? I had never had a need for one, but I had gone to a psychiatrist due to anxiety issues, and i was diagnosized with such. but she has mentioned in every of our conversations at 5 of the criteria por BPD, reading a book about BPD has described so much of her behavior, reading through the r/BPD every single person describes exactly the same behaviour she has. of course probably her condition is not a problem for everyday's routine but for a relationship it seems to cause some problems....I tired to interpret the first lot of readings but it hasn't helped as you are still asking about what's going on with her. I see she has lots of mental issues due to abuse you say but if she refuses to speak to you then what are you meant to do.
It wasnt for every day I just wanted to know what could happen some days of this week, if there was a better chance to have proper communication with her since it suggested to try to solve the problem but perhaps the issue is that I am doing the wrong questions, I feel lost, and perhaps , just as a person as you suggest I should try to forget her but it has been so difficult to me to understand how anyone could express clearly their interest during 1-2 weeks,and then change her mind it isn't normal and then after a period of being totally dry trying to insinuate things sexually, which I have under no circumstance ever started, it has always been her initiative... so you see it is confusing how someone could be like this, then I think if you were me you would feel as confused...It isn't sustainable to have to ask Yi about every day you want to contact her being a good day, how can you go on like that, it doesn't depend on the day of the week does it ? The relationship shouldn't depend on you getting the day of the week right where she might not block you.
You might ask I Ching "what makes me susceptible to a masochistic relationship?" or "what do I need to know about my susceptibility to a masochistic relationship?". Sounds like she has Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD). My advice - try to avoid the temptation of being a white knight or perceiving yourself as such. Look after No.1, and completely cut contact, permanently.
Good luck
what I dont understand who paradoxically Iching could confirm in the future I would have a relationship with her I mean this one question was done like 1 week or 2 weeks ago55.1.5 : Line 1 means it's a relationship that lasts 10 days, in other words it's a relationship that doesn't last...
Don't be sad, there is another woman who will be more sensitive to your heart...
you suggest I should try to forget her but it has been so difficult to me to understand how anyone could express clearly their interest during 1-2 weeks,and then change her mind it isn't normal and then after a period of being totally dry trying to insinuate things sexually, which I have under no circumstance ever started, it has always been her initiative... so you see it is confusing how someone could be like this, then I think if you were me you would feel as confused...
I have already experienced enough pain with her, but I assumed that somehow that if during a period she had expressed some sort of attraction she could have some feeling left, from previous readings I have interpreted that this would take time, and things would be uphill, but why then Yi keeps telling me every single time I asked if I would have a lasting relatioship with her with an affirmative answer, of course it never said it would be easy, or it would happen quickly, I think i had found someone special, yes she has makes me feel horrible, but I think that is part of her psychological problem ( which I cant change unless she takes therapy)
It wasnt for every day I just wanted to know what could happen some days of this week, if there was a better chance to have proper communication with her since it suggested to try to solve the problem but perhaps the issue is that I am doing the wrong questions, I feel lost, and perhaps , just as a person as you suggest I should try to forget her but it has been so difficult to me to understand how anyone could express clearly their interest during 1-2 weeks,and then change her mind it isn't normal and then after a period of being totally dry trying to insinuate things sexually, which I have under no circumstance ever started, it has always been her initiative... so
If you read the 2nd longest post I have tried to explain things in a shorter and concise way, it has been a month of communication through, whatsapp and videocall, were were about to meet in person but due to her emotions I couldnt do that, i wonder is it expected someone even pays for someone's taxi to the place, to someone like her? I was willing to pay one to take her hime but why would I need to take all decisions? Because I was the onky interested might be the answer?Brandon7 - I have to say that what you've shared here is very long, and very, very convoluted, and makes less and less sense to me. And I can't even tell if this is someone whom you've actually met in person, or has this 'relationship' all been online, on the phone or via text messages?
And I find it's really hard - next to impossible - to respond to all that.
Do you known what is ironic? I had asked a question just before talking with her(just before she blocked me) it suggested to not talk with her, I did it anyway and perhaps I said what she didnt wanted to hear. I told her that I'd always feel fine because she would be here, that single message made her block me, something that I though that somehow expressed how she made me feel and how I was feeling (as the answer to the question how do you feel? Since she told me she couldnt sleep last night so I wanted to know if she felt better but apparently giving that naive answer was enough to made her want to block me, now think about how could I do things correctly with her without proper guidance? She doesnt expresses the fact she didnt like something but straight up decides to block anyone without a warningCrossed posts but also this might help
Blog post: Advice for relationship readings
Most people seem to get started with the Yijing by asking about a relationship. It’s a good way to start: it’s present, immediate and something you care about – when you ask these questions, you’re really asking them. It’s also potentially tricky, that mix of getting started with overwhelming...www.onlineclarity.co.uk
I think this is the truth, but how could I possibly not exert any pressure if I feel I love her it is like impossible to hold back your emotions for so long, I find difficult to not say something beautiful to her, but this is the same reason that makes her block me because she feels I am pressuring herI would think it would make everything far worse for her to have the pressure of trying to be a girlfriend, trying to have a relationship
Brandon, if I had to summarize the Yi advice, I say it has to do with finding real solutions to real situations And that makes me ask you: what the heck are you doing here? What are you hoping for? If this person doesn't want to communicate with you, than find someone who does.She doesnt expresses the fact she didnt like something but straight up decides to block anyone without a warning
She is playing.Since she told me she couldnt sleep last night so I wanted to know if she felt better but apparently giving that naive answer was enough to made her want to block me, now think about how could I do things correctly with her without proper guidance? She doesnt expresses the fact she didnt like something but straight up decides to block anyone without a warning
I think this is the truth, but how could I possibly not exert any pressure if I feel I love her it is like impossible to hold back your emotions for so long, I find difficult to not say something beautiful to her, but this is the same reason that makes her block me because she feels I am pressuring her
Well It has happened a lot since I wrote here I dont remember many of the readings on the hexagrams but I got once to talk with her, I had contacted with another number the iching suggested something I should say to her to let her know I understood her... anyway that day she unblocked me and even asked me to be her bf but knowing her as she is she changed her mind in matter of 3hours... also this didnt last long enough because there was a 55.1 and this 10th day started today.She is playing.
I had a person doing that to me and I have witnessed a person doing that to someone they knew was interested. There are people who spend their time like this. Blocking and unblocking just to block you again. She is probably laughing about it with another friend. It's a power game. There is nothing wrong in what you say, there is no excuse or reason as child abuse. She is just playing because you are interested.
Don't look for her any more and tell us what happens.
Line 1
The situation has changed and minds have changed = impulse rising, going out of the gate. Changes to (45) Gathering Together. Adapting to a change requires new approaches that can only be explored by leaving the familiar. Allow the time to reveal itself in the changed minds of others. Be open to input. There are consequences that affect all involved. A discussion or meeting brings people together to make amends. Influence is an outer prompting while impulse is an inner sense. Allow someone the space to discover the impulse rather than attempting to influence or push.
and then this makes even less sense since I dont have any suitable way to know her "opinion" just her e-mailAdapting to a change requires new approaches that can only be explored by leaving the familiar.
Allow the time to reveal itself in the changed minds of others. Be open to input.
Line 5
Influenced in the back = no remorse. Changes to (62) Small Exceeding. You feel energized and ready to proceed and small boundaries can be crossed in order to express truth in a way that resonates with another. The back is the most rigid part of the body so influence without remorse can mean a feeling shifts at a deep level. If we cannot be influenced ourselves we cannot influence the outer world. Small things done consistently can work wonders. While an unconscious attraction has yet to reach consciousness because of boundaries, something stirs in the depths. It is beneficial to remain correct and proceed in small ways toward your goal.
I am lost on what I should do because I really can't do anything since she blocked me and this time I dont have any way to contact her. I told her I could try to convince her best friend to unblock her but she was hurt for something I told her best friend... I dont really know, what should I do?
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