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What does he want from our relationship?... Hexagram 7.2.4 to 16

Shadowsid32

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Hi all,

After something of a hiatus, I have returned to the I-Ching and need some help figuring out what it is trying to tell me in this situation. I am in a relatively new relationship for about the past five months and it has, for the most part, been a source of true joy and happiness in my life. I believe this to be true for him as well. The situation evolved as his former relationship was ending and when it did actually end the opportunity to take the next step together was evident. I was (and am) reticent to move too quickly and we haven't. We spend probably four nights a week together at his home, but I believe he needs the other nights to grow accustomed to being alone in the house now and to properly mourn the situation and he tends to agree with this. Again, this goes along with not moving too quickly and letting old wounds heal a little. Because he and his ex had pets together, and because his ex is unable to have pets in the new apartment and seems to be having something of a difficult time dealing with being alone, my boyfriend will occasionally have the ex over to see the pets and talk about how things are going.

As things are so new, for what I believe to be obvious reasons, I'm not entirely comfortable with the arrangement and have said so. However, he tells me that there is nothing to worry about and that, though he cares for his ex because of the time they shared together (seven years), that he has made it clear his feelings for me and that he no longer has romantic feelings for the ex. I believe it because I believe that, with the amount that he knows this is affecting me, he would tell me if there was some other motive in their meetings. In a way, though I'm uncomfortable with it, I'm also happy that he doesn't want to just abandon someone that he shared so much with, especially when the ex is hurting or having difficulty adjusting. My boyfriend has told me that he loves me and that he loves spending time with me, that he wants our relationship to grow, and I believe that too. It might be my own self-conscious nature that is getting the best of me here, and I'm trying not to be jealous or apprehensive about the ex, but it's difficult sometimes.

So, after that long explanation, the question that I asked was: what does my boyfriend want out of the relationship we are building?

The answer I got was hexagram 7.2.4 changing to hexagram 16.

My take on hexagram 7 is a desire for something orderly and strong- in this case a relationship or connection- where we are working together rather than exercising separate agendas. Line 2 I read as a warning against trying to take moral high ground or trying to inflict guilt or a sense of superiority, but to be honest and talk about the things that are bothering both of us, which we are actually pretty good at doing. Line 4 I read more as an emotional retreat or even as a discussion about the situation in which we see each other frequently through the week but with time for him to acclimate to a new life, a new relationship, and to properly mourn the past and heal from it.

Hexagram 16 I see as a very positive indication because I believe it speaks to what we both want which is a happy union built on creating that strong relationship that I believe hexagram 7 in some ways refers to.

Having said all of that, my interpretations are pretty literal and I'm pretty green when it comes to the way the I-Ching presents its wisdom so I would welcome whatever anyone else sees here.
 

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Wow, I think your understanding of your reading is fantastic. I hope to get better about understanding my own readings.

It seems that you and your partner have both established your common goal and are diligently working toward it ... even if all the pieces don't fit right just yet. Your partner's ex visiting maybe seems to throw a wrench into the mix, but not if the combined intention and creative energy is directed to growing your relationship. Being open, patient, flexible, and faithful to your goal appears to be vital. (Makes sense!) And, based on what you've posted, you and your partner are giving one another no cause for jealousy or uneasiness, only trust and confidence.
 
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Hexagram 7 is a waiting game - not necessarily waiting for a war but being prepared if one came along. In fact I dont v ery much like the term army - it is more like a peace-keeping force or people's army preparing. In your case and scenario which you explain very clearly - you are waiting patiently for things to move forward. 7.2 and 7.4 show the need to be flexible and accepting of the situation you are in. Sometimes we need to let events play out and in this case letting any negativity in the situation dissolve with time. Hex 16 enthusiasm - can mean being over enthusiastic even exhausting and sometimes knowing when to curb the enthusiasm - wanting to push ahead too soon

This is a lovely reading and augers well if you stay slightly removed and let emotions settle. You have nothing to gain by being on the attack -
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Hmmm... ok I'll have a stab at this.

It's interesting that he was with his ex for 7 years and you get the number 7.

I'm not an expert - just going off intuition here and experience with this combination of hex.

I think the hex is showing you two relationships here. One with his ex and one with you.

7 represents the relationship he had with his ex - which he enjoyed comfort from but line 4 shows "no common interest" in the end. So there’s no threat here for you… nothing for you to be uncomfortable about.

http://www.oracle-of-love.info/olbulk/hex7.html

16 represents his fresh beginning with you…what he wants with you, which is positive…but this is not a solid number in my view… and this makes sense since your relationship hasn’t evolved to the point where firm definitions of a solid future can be made. It’s just a beautiful dream at the moment. A dream that can change if you behave incorrectly.

You need to be considerate and have emotional discipline which stems from genuine compassion for his loss. (Please note that some of what I write also comes from experience of being in his position in exactly the same situation)

Although you love each other and have a great time together, he cannot build the same bond (i.e. trust, love, respect) with you in five months that has been built with someone of 7 years. You need to drop any ego of "I should be number one and you must prioritise my emotional needs over hers" If you try to force him to break his contact before he is ready; you may damage your relationship beyond repair.

The dude needs time.... time to heal and time to let go. Any added pressure from you will breed resentment within him and that beautiful 16 which he associates with you may be lost.

Have faith, patience and acceptance. He spends four nights a week with you, that's a lot of time. If you let your own insecurities contaminate your relationship, you unnecessarily ruin it.
 
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7, army, and especially 7.2 sound worrying.
What does he want from your relationship - 7.2 = to be adored by an army..!?
Sounds like a few too many....
When the army retreats, there's deception/enthusiasm/delusion/self-delusion.
Hidden line 2.4 - something tied up in a sack, like a secret perhaps.
Sorry but none of this sounds like a steady footing for a good relationship.

Maybe ask what you can do (if anything) in order to build a solid relationship with him?
An ex in constant re-use is not a good sign as you can already sense.
And obviously people don't get over someone by constant contact with said person.
 

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I'd like to thank everyone for responding to this thread. I've been unable to check this forum, but all of your insights are much appreciated. Thank you!!
 

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Thank you so much, and I apologize for the late response to your response. I think you really hit the nail on the head, and I actually needed to read this today. Though circumstances are constantly changing, I do believe in this relationship more than I have any other. I feel a bond that I haven't felt with anyone else. And yes, he does need time. Thank you so much for your insight! I truly appreciate it!
 

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Thank you so much for your insight! I feel bad that it's taken so long to get back to everyone, but I've found that all of the insights give a lot of food for thought and (not surprisingly) are very accurate. The need for flexibility is very necessary right now- actually more so than it was when I posted this reading- but at the end of the day I do feel good about the relationship once this long process concerning the ex is behind us. In the meantime it's slightly uncomfortable, and I'm glad I at least have people to talk to about it.
 

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Thank you! I am still kind of a newbie with the I-Ching, but I find with my limited exposure to it that it's a much more reliable system of divination than almost anything else. Thank you for your input, and I can say that I'm sincerely trying. I at least get an "E" for effort. :)
 

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Thank you so much for your input. As I've mentioned in one of the other responses, this continues to be something of an issue, and it's definitely testing my limits. But I can say that sometimes these situations are extremely enlightening. I'm seeing as much to work on in myself as I'm finding questionable attributes in him as well. While in many ways the relationship is going very well, the ex is the sticking point, and it's a race between my patience and this person's constant presence to see who wins out. I'm trying to be understanding, but I can feel my understanding edging toward ultimate irritation and a lack of trust. Time to revisit the I-Ching and see what else it has to say... Thank you again!
 

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He just wants to be with you [7.2], to feel your support, that'll help him in his emotional struggle.
But nothing more [2.4] at the time.

16 is called 'Repose', time-out. Wait until the next cycle of activity starts.
 

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Thank you so much for your input. As I've mentioned in one of the other responses, this continues to be something of an issue, and it's definitely testing my limits. But I can say that sometimes these situations are extremely enlightening. I'm seeing as much to work on in myself as I'm finding questionable attributes in him as well. While in many ways the relationship is going very well, the ex is the sticking point, and it's a race between my patience and this person's constant presence to see who wins out. I'm trying to be understanding, but I can feel my understanding edging toward ultimate irritation and a lack of trust. Time to revisit the I-Ching and see what else it has to say... Thank you again!
just in case you are still around, hod has this panned out?
 

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I just wasted 5 minutes reading the thread as I thought it was new, then I saw it was from 6 years ago and the querent hasn't been here since 2015.


It would be better to simply hover over person's name so you can see when they were last here. If it's within the last year or two it may be worth posting on their thread. If they haven't been here for over 3,4 or 5 years then maybe just send them a message. Otherwise people think it's a current thread because by responding you have bought it up the page so it looks current.
 
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I just wasted 5 minutes reading the thread as I thought it was new, then I saw it was from 6 years ago and the querent hasn't been here since 2015.


It would be better to simply hover over person's name so you can see when they were last here. If it's within the last year or two it may be worth posting on their thread. If they haven't been here for over 3,4 or 5 years then maybe just send them a message. Otherwise people think it's a current thread because by responding you have bought it up the page so it looks current.
Yes it can be frustrating when that happens and soooo frustrating that they don't update.....
 

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I just wasted 5 minutes reading the thread as I thought it was new, then I saw it was from 6 years ago and the querent hasn't been here since 2015.


It would be better to simply hover over person's name so you can see when they were last here. If it's within the last year or two it may be worth posting on their thread. If they haven't been here for over 3,4 or 5 years then maybe just send them a message. Otherwise people think it's a current thread because by responding you have bought it up the page so it looks current.
i am very sorry, i did not think about this, and will not do that in the future
 

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Sorry I possibly sounded too stern, I'm not a moderator or anything it's just something I wanted to point out. I don't feel you should be too sorry, you didn't mean any harm.
 

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