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Your Experience With Unchanging Castings -- Hexagram 6

Yasmin

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I agree with trojina's experience: every time I have received 6UC it has been about an internal conflict. I just got it today in response to a mundane question. I had planned to attend a gathering which normally gives me pleasure, but had a lot of work and logistical stress going on, so I was undecided. I asked "what if I don't attend the gathering?" The answer was 6UC. Which probably just reflects back to me how I feel about it. And perhaps advises the solution which feels most balanced and moderate to me at this time. There is no absolute answer, only I can decide. I decided against the extra stress crossing town to attend that get together.
That said, I got 6UC, conflict, not for example 15UC moderation. So I feel like I'm missing something, I don't yet have a real handle on 6UC...
 
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Hello, I drew 6uc today when asking about some preparation for a job interview next week - I wondered whether I was doing too much prep, in the sense that I was overdoing it in some way, as I kept coming up with new ideas to make my interview presentation even better.

Yi: 6uc.

I didn't feel as though I was in conflict, but when I settled down to reflect realised that my mind was in conflict with itself - competing with itself, each idea better than the last one.

I asked for further clarification on how I should approach the situation and drew 46.6>18, then 8.2>29. I took this as, if I push too far I'll ruin the whole thing; I just need to be simple and sincere when I relate to the interview panel...

But yes, for 6uc in this case, very much a mental conflict - which perhaps would also have created an actual conflict with the interview panel had I continued...
 

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This really helped my contemplation today. Hexagram 6 isn't merely about being in opposition and conflict - it is about BUILDING the CASE to make a decision about something. It could be an outlying feeling building its case to be heard, and it may be in minority to other feelings that are stronger. When I think of water under heaven, I see empathy working the way it is supposed to. The first ideas I had is that Water always reflects the conditions of the sky. When the heavens are blue and clear, the water is too. When the heavens are cloudy and muddy, so is the water. The difference between the two, however is substantial. I cannot breath under the water, but I can breath in the sky.

Because Hexagram 6 is about litigation, and so early on in the book of changes, it seems to me that this deals with the root of a matter that is tearing you up inside, a question of justice, the very principles of your constitution and WHO YOU ARE. To Be or Not to Be?

I did a few years of law school, and we had some mock trials. This hexagram is the basis of defense. In the next hexagram (7), the judgment and image basically says, hey, you can't go marching off to fight for life, liberty and the pursuit of your happiness without a really good reason - morally justified - for DEFENSE. I just mentioned "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" a quote from the United States Declaration of Independence. That document is a legal document that set forth the principles that justified its revolutionary war against England.

That is hexagram 6. The colonists felt like they were under water, under oppression, could not breath. They fought for freedom, for liberty, to breath free. Unchanging - whatever the situation or query is - I think the oracle is trying to tell us, 'Hey, you are STRESSED OUT about this. It's not HEALTHY. It's not GOOD FOR YOU. If you aren't listening to those feelings that are seeking redress and feeling not listened to, you are setting yourself up to NOT HAVE YOUR Sh*t TOGETHER in Hexagram 7, when you need it the most. Decide right now what it is you stand for, what it is you are defending, do you even have a CASE? If not, then why are you stressing out?" You can't do anything about it, if you haven't decided where YOU stand on an issue.
 

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Hi

I asked how to increase sales? It was loud and clear I am going to need to fight for it.

Sales can be like a tug of war, send an email, someone then contemplates, you follow up, you may negotiate on price.

I used to be almost frightened when I recieved the reading, nowadays its more "prepare for war"

Steve
 

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I was just called to this thread to delete a spam post. It's a nice example of 6 unchanging, complete with hindsight. The gist: he couldn't see anything wrong with the house he planned on buying, and indeed there wasn't - it was just that his wife and son didn't like it at all.
The link's broken, but I think this is the thread:
 

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Got 6 unchanged when I asked about what I can do best to protect myself not to get caught be the corona virus.

"Cautious and centered" ist part of the answer of 6, and good to build up a defense, a strong immune system!

Also there is a sense of withdrawal, avoid stress. And maybe an inner conflict, as I spend most time at home, but would like to go out and travel a bit around to see some exhibitions, but not sure if I should do so and if so, in which way. And I think it might be fine to go out with the utmost caution.
 

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If you get 6 you are in an argument with something, not necessarily another person. Question is what is the argument with here ? You asked how to protect yourself, so you are in argument with the virus ? I'm not sure the advice is to build up good defences oh you mean where it says

'Vigilant and centred, good fortune.' (Hilary)


Wilhelm says

' A cautious halt half way brings good fortune.'

I looked back at the early posts here the other day, the ones right at the beginning



Now when I see Hexagram 6 unchanging as a feature of life to come, I don't assume there will be a "fight" but that somewhere out there is an unpleasant situation and it will somehow overflow in my direction.

Like a weather report. Today strong wind. That I get blown off my feet has nothing to do with me, it is just the wind...


I think there's some truth there. The thing is can anyone fully protect themselves ? I guess by completely isolating but even then you need people to bring things. I don't see that one can completely protect oneself one can only go halfway as the oracle says.


Probably exhibitions are taking good precautions. Supermarkets here really are not. I think one has to judge each situation.
 

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This thread is really, very helpful!

I had a very toxic relationship and I ended it more than a year ago. But since then, I keep ruminating and overthinking about everything that happened, blaming myself and feeling bad. So I asked I ching, what should I do to stop feeling that way. And I got 11 UC! relax, be at peace, go with the flow... Wonderful answer except it is easier said than done. So I asked further, "how close I am to getting there (to 11 UC)?"
That is when I got 6 UC. I was really puzzled beacuse it suggested a pitfall. But i think the image of Rodins thinking man fits so well into my situation. For the last year I look like that statue really. Not knowing what to do and in "perpetual indecisiveness". I am considering getting theraphy and postponing it, I am avoiding people who remind me of this relationship etc. Still not sure how to move forward but I think I ching is telling me that not moving forward is keeping me from being in flow.
 

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I was surfing around the site and came across this thread. I saw many confusion about 6 UC and recently I was reading on this hex so I give some of my thoughts.

First of all, I am Chinese and I study base on this annotation in ancient Chinese source from Fuji (planchette writing). Putting the credibility aside, the concepts it mentioned is really on another level. Since I am not familiar with any translated text, so please forgive me with my own translation and terms.

The insight of Hex 6 "Conflict" have to begin with Hex 5 because they are a pair; and in this case they are reverse pair so they have opposite nature. I saw many English interpretation of hex 5 but they don't click with me, so I will go on explaining on my own. Hex 5 I would say it is "In need", water above sky is rain and sky fall below is sunlight, rain and sunlight are both essential needs of life. "In need" is more than just "waiting" but waiting with the dependency of external help or resources. This will further go into defining "need" and "want", which is aspects of cultivation, materialism/spiritualism, Confucianism and more but I won't go into details here.

Hex 6 conflict being the reverse of Hex 5, is simply where "needs" are over the limit. Excessive need is just desire and greed and when resource are scarce, it ends up in a "Conflict". So when interpreting Hex 6, it isn't just about conflict itself, but more on what lead to this conflict.

So with Hex 6 uc there are three aspects I would self evaluate:
1. What is causing this conflict? Is it feelings? or actions? or desires? Or what are being fight for? Find the root of it.
2. Is your action justified? Yi talks about being balance/center are good and extremities are dangerous. So are you the one with greed, desire or excessive dependency? Are you seeking more than what you need? Are you getting what should be other's?
3. If not, then how will I avoid this conflict that initiated from other side? Conflict never ends well, so don't let conflict prolong or raise to a larger scale.

I won't go into judgement too much but here to sum it up. Be cautious and have self awareness of your own mistakes and it will lead to good fortune, however if allowing conflict to prolong it will lead to misfortune.
 
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I just want to thank everyone for sharing their ideas of 6 UC. I found them enlightening and interesting and very relevant. I just wanted to share my experience with 6 UC.

I'm an artist and I do daily readings with the i ching as part of my creative process. Today I asked: "How can the hero's journey help me based on where I am in my journey right now?"

Side note: I'm afraid this may seem like a bit of a nutty question and I'm aware of its circular nature. It makes sense in light of my art practice but it's too long to delve into here.

Anyway, the answer was 6 UC.

Thinking of the hexagram reading, including many of your thoughts here, and within the frame of the hero's journey, it became clear to me that 6 UC for me related to "Refusal of the call to adventure." Why? Because it felt like the best fit based on where I am and since it is a place on the journey where the protagonist suffers internal conflict in making the decision to continue on the path of adventure or to return to his former life. I then decided to just do a simple web search on "refusal to the call to adventure" and I found this kind of magnificent example of 6 UC, which reflects so many of the things you all have written about.

This web article gives an example of refusal to the call to adventure from Lord of the Rings. Quoting from that web page:

"Until now, Frodo’s mission consisted only in bringing the Ring to Rivendell, a quest that almost killed him. Now, he has been invited to join the council of Elrond.

As Boromir tries to convince the others that leaving the magical object in his hands is a good idea (spoiler alert: it’s not), Frodo observes without speaking. Same when Elrond says that the Ring must be destroyed.

He doesn’t speak, after all, he is just a little Hobbit, those kings and leaders don’t need his opinion, right?

Only after Gimli tries to break it with his ax that we see a reaction. Frodo understands that his connection with the Ring is still intact.

And then, he sees for the first time the danger of Sauron’s creation.

Rather than discussing a solution, the members of the council start fighting among themselves. Frodo looks at the Ring and hears the same voice that has been haunting him since he left the Shire.

No one is holding it, but Sauron’s creation can still influence the souls of the people around it. If he stays silent, Frodo can go back to the Shire with his friends but will the rest of them be able to handle the Ring?

That’s when the hobbit decides to stop rejecting his destiny and steps up. As soon as he does, everything falls into place: the fight stops, an agreement is reached, and the rest of the Fellowship joins him."
[quoted from shadowandmovies.com/refusal-of-the-call-to-adventure-the-heros-journey/ accessed on 3/11/2021. The related video segment of the movie is also included on the page. It's very short and fun to watch.]

I found all the conflict in this scene felt like 6 UC: First, Frodo's internal conflict about what decision to make. Second, the conflict of all these folks who were all on different paths but now found themselves thrown together without it being any of their fault. Third, the influence of the ring--which is one of Need or Greed that is way over the normal limits and that is causing the council to argue--just pretty on target for 6 UC. Of course, when Frodo makes his choice we enter into the realm of a different hexagram. But that time before his decision feels very 6 UC to me.

Just thought I would share!
 
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I just received 6uc today, asking about my 18yr old (since yesterday), because he is upset, had a recent breakup, didn't want birthday cake or cards & is barricaded into his room & I wondered about my role here?
He has autism & ocd, so things can get tough for him

however, the 6uc cast tells me that it is a conflict within him, & like weather to not take it personally, but to plan ahead for when he will come to me to talk

Gua Poem (the invocation):
If one has truth there is obstruction
Alert and central: auspicious
To the end: pitfall.
Fruitful to see great people
Fruitless to cross the great stream


The great image says: Heaven associating with water is incompatible movement: contention. The noble one, when he sets up affairs, plans ahead.​
Don't push anything, but remain alert, receptive, seek advice but don't act
 

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I see 6uc as advising you that your desire for him to feel good is in Conflict with his feeling bad and thus I agree with your interpretation that you are being advised not to push. Indeed the lines 1.2.4 particularly seem to suggest you should demonstrate understanding of his point of view. So perhaps you’re supposed to give him a lot of positive reinforcement such as saying things like, “This is really tough. You really loved her. It’s gonna take awhile to get past this. Take all the time you need. “
 

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These threads, that is people's experiences with unchanging hexagrams, are just for their own perceptions about their unchanging casts. It's not like SR, they aren't posting for help with readings here. It could be you think you are in SR Rosada. Moreover lines 1,2 and 4 were not cast, they are not part of an unchanging reading.
 

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