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26.6>11 Coping with U.S. political changes

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I asked the other day how I could best deal with the terrible news every day so as to be most effective in my own life. The backdrop is that I am in the U.S. and not only have I been seriously dismayed at the political changes in general with the last election, but the new Congress is already rushing through trying to repeal the health care changes that have made my life workable. I have several chronic illnesses and can only work part-time, so it will deeply harm my life if this goes through. Staying current with all the news, which I feel is important, is also making me very anxious.

I received hexagram 26.6>11, and I'm writing here because I'd like some additional feedback. In Hilary's book, this is written: "The way is open for heaven's power to travel through the earth. All the energy of Great Taming is released, and the currents of change flow faster, deeper and more powerfully. It's beyond your capacity to understand where this is going, much less control it; all you can know is that it is strong and true and you can have confidence in it. There is no security in trying to stop this; only those who move with it will flourish."

The main idea that does seem relevant here is that potential changes are suddenly rushing forth pretty quickly, without security of knowing where it's going. And I thought it was interesting that this idea kind of repeats with hexagram 11, Flow. In another post on this page, Hilary wrote about hex 11, "It can be exhilarating – but it can also be overwhelming, as things that had never before seemed ‘small’ to us vanish down the river. When we’re given this hexagram unchanging, especially, the question of how (or whether) we can interact with such a force comes to the fore. It can sometimes mean being confronted with life and death issues that set the rest of life firmly in perspective."

So it seems to me that most relevant to this question, there are repeating themes of changes moving quickly and powerfully. Also interestingly, I've seen hexagram 26.6 described as the point where all the things that were formerly restrained suddenly burst forth. Well - that certainly seems like some of the political stuff right now, with Republicans suddenly gaining control of all of the parts of government and trying to quickly change many things.

Ok, so that's all fascinatingly describing the situation itself, but can anyone help with my actual question, which was how I can successfully cope with this? Clearly it's saying to accept that things are changing and try to move with it, though I don't know in practical terms what that means I should do. I've also read about hexagram 26 in general relating to studying people's words and actions from the past, to take as a model. I don't know what else to take from this as advice.
 
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I'll be very interested to hear others' responses to this, as the same question is very alive for me.

I guess one thing that means in terms of what you should do is that you should minimize the energy you allow to go into "OMG! No no no! Stop!" and accept the situation that we're in -- even that it might, in some peculiar way, be "heaven's highway."

It does seem to me to be a reassuring reading, in a weird sort of way. It's suggesting that you *can* create success from it. And perhaps that's something you can hang onto a bit to help calm yourself down, as you're swept along the highway.
 

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26.6 > 11 is not a very specific reading, so there are probably lots of ways it could work out, and I don't think we can tell just from the reading. One clear example of my own with that exact casting was me asking about buying something to send to someone in the hospital - how it ended up was I couldn't find a way to actually buy the thing, but also, the person was in and out of the hospital so fast, they were home before the package could have gotten to them anyway. So a couple things I now associate with 26.6 are "it's a moot point" and, as you said, "events will move faster than your plans."

I certainly don't know for sure how that will apply to health care, and I know there are those who want the ACA repealed wholesale. There have been so many crazy things bandied about, and our president elect comes across in such a nutty way that I don't blame anyone for being terrified of anything. However, he has literally said on national television that he is not going to repeal such things as coverage for pre-existing conditions, if that helps you worry a bit less?

One thing he's said he does want to do with health insurance - and I'm not going to get the words exactly correct here, and I can't find anything to link to right now because I don't have a lot of time to look, and also because the 60 Minutes interview where I heard him say it is behind a pay wall - is eliminate the state barriers that apparently exist currently, and allow insurance companies to sell policies nationally.

That sounds a lot like 11.6, which is the fan yao of 26.6:

11.6
'The bulwarks fall back into the moat.
Don’t use the army.
From your own city, declaring the mandate.
Constancy means shame.'


"Bulwarks" are walls. From Merriam-Webster:


Definition of bulwark

1 a : a solid wall-like structure raised for defense : rampart
b : breakwater, seawall <building a bulwark in the harbor>


Since these health insurance walls are the ones I've heard him talk about removing (rather than, ahem, building) I think it's likely that's what the reading's talking about...
 

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I found a transcript of the 60 Minutes interview, where he talks a bit about pre-existing conditions and a couple other things to do with health care. I thought he explained about the state barriers, but that must have been somewhere else.

Now granted this interview was back in November...I don't have time to look for more recent statements.

Lesley Stahl: Let me ask you about Obamacare, which you say you’re going to repeal and replace. When you replace it, are you going to make sure that people with pre-conditions are still covered?

Donald Trump: Yes. Because it happens to be one of the strongest assets.


Lesley Stahl: You’re going to keep that?

Donald Trump: Also, with the children living with their parents for an extended period, we’re gonna--

Lesley Stahl: You’re gonna keep that--

Donald Trump: Very much try and keep that. Adds cost, but it’s very much something we’re going to try and keep.

Lesley Stahl: And there’s going to be a period if you repeal it and before you replace it, when millions of people could lose -– no?

Donald Trump: No, we’re going to do it simultaneously. It’ll be just fine. We’re not going to have, like, a two-day period and we’re not going to have a two-year period where there’s nothing. It will be repealed and replaced. And we’ll know. And it’ll be great health care for much less money. So it’ll be better health care, much better, for less money. Not a bad combination.
 

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Here is a New York Times article about the selling-health-insurance-across-state-lines issue. I think you'll be able to read it - I can read a certain number of articles free per month from nytimes.com before I get locked out.

It's from 2015, but hopefully as an explanation it's not obsolete.

I'm actually more confused about your reading after skimming this, since it talks about problems with eliminating the barriers that make it sound infeasible. But I'm undoubtedly missing a lot, maybe you'll be able to find better information.
 

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Thanks, Julie and Lisa, for your replies.

Yes, it would definitely be ideal to not think "This shouldn't be happening!" though harder to do in practice...but I do feel like that's a main meaning with this reading - that rapid motion is happening and it won't be otherwise. I'm less clear on whether line 6 of hex. 26, and hexagram 11 as the relating hexagram, are always positive. At the moment, the value neutral notions of rapid and powerful movement seem more primary, but I'd love to hear from more people on this, especially if you have experience receiving this line.

Lisa, I'd love it if "it's a moot point" became relevant in this question! :) Thank you for sharing your experience with 26.6, and it would be interesting if somehow that became the case either in larger or smaller ways here. I'm very familiar and stay current with the specifics of health insurance due to necessity, which is the reason I don't feel very reassured on any of these things so far, due to both the policy proposals being thoroughly unrealistic and Trump's endless flip-flopping on all issues, regardless of what he was recorded saying earlier. During last week's initial votes to repeal the ACA, all possible amendments to assure any protections were defeated, including keeping coverage for pre-existing conditions. That's not the last vote, but still, not reassuring. Also it's pointless window dressing to even say that will stay, if the subsidies and mandates are taken away, because premiums will skyrocket so it will effectively not keep coverage, even if technically it's not repealed. Similarly, selling policies across state lines is another one of those things that might sound useful in theory, but doesn't help practically, due to lack of actual local practitioners/facilities in the networks and not having big enough pools to make it affordable.

Anyway, back to the I Ching meanings. ;-) My only other thought so far about how I could 'move with' this rapid flow of change in a positive way had been to participate in resistance, protesting, etc. But then I went to rallies yesterday against ACA repeal and then spent the rest of yesterday and today in bed due to it over-exhausting me. The very reasons this all matters so much for my life make it less tenable for me to do things about it. So not even sure I can live that positive interpretation of the reading.

Any other ideas on this out there?
 
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During the recent initial votes to repeal the ACA, all possible amendments to assure any protections were defeated, including keeping coverage for pre-existing conditions. Now that's not the last vote, but still, not reassuring. Also it's pointless window dressing to even say that will stay if the subsidies and mandates are taken away, because premiums will skyrocket so it will effectively not keep coverage, even if technically it's not repealed.
I didn't know any of that, sorry, Pallas. :(

I have never, ever understood the insurance companies' fuss over pre-existing conditions. I mean, very superficially, I can understand a company saying no, we don't want this person who we know ahead of time has medical problems. But turn the page (are we allowed to do that?), and what do you know, someone they already insure will come down with something. Or a brand new enrollee will be diagnosed with something a week after coverage starts. Or someone who will never need a dime of coverage in their life leaves their rolls, taking their 100%-profit premiums with them. Same with every other insurance company. In the big picture, isn't it pretty random? Or something? If every insurance company had to dip their ladle into the same pot, and scoop up whatever they get, no company would be any better or worse off than any other...right?

But I make no actual effort to understand any of this, so I'm probably ignorant of all kinds of things which would make it make sense. So I should stop discussing it.

It goes without saying that I hope it ends up okay for you... :hug:
 

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My take.


Just as before as 26. You always knew, the way of the heaven, the tao. It changed nothing. All you learned, was already inside, you already knew. Kinda like a paradox, isnt it?
 

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Hi pallasathenea

Your answer has several layers of advise.

26 is all about the need to transform a tough situation into abundance through discipline, self-development, generosity and sacrifices. It's a lot of hard work, but rewards are ahead.

On a very practical tone, you're advised to save money and accumulate resources as much as you can in anticipation for hard times.
On the emotional/mental field, you're advised to tame the fear and anxiety about the news. Discipline your mind to constantly renew your virtue and spirit in order to have the strenght to face whathever you may face.
On the political/social field, 26zhi11 advises to accumulate forces for your own field and take actions to tame the tiranic ruler, until the right time comes and the heaven's path opens for a change of dinasty. This is not yet the time for open insurrection of battle in open field, but a time for a force acummulatilon strategy.

Wish you the best
 

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As far as you personally coping with this process - I don't have any "good" ideas, sorry, but line 6 is often a "detached" position, someone outside or removed. 26.6 may or may not mean that your worry will end up being a moot point, but since there's nothing you can do about it, is it possible to just stop paying attention for now?

I mean, is there anything you can do that's actually productive right now? It doesn't seem like it - can you even try to make contingency plans until there's some decision?

I understand that when something this important is up in the air, it's very scary, and I understand feeling like you must keep up with what's going on. But is that helping you in any concrete way? Could you try not following it for just a day or two and see whether you feel more or less nervous? Just let "heaven's highway" move along without you? (That sounds very line-6ish, actually.) There will be plenty of time for you to worry when there's actually something to worry about, right? (Well, "worry" isn't the right word; you can't help worrying. But following it closely might be a different thing - I'm wondering if that's actually feeding your anxiety.)

This might sound ridiculous to you; if it does please ignore it, of course. I honestly don't know how I'd react in your position, other than "badly".
 

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26.6 was also cast for Trump in a political prediction thread here. My view then is the same as it is now. He is being swept through...one might say as a turd through a celestial alimentary canal ;). I've compared the great highway in 26.6 to celestial peristalsis, huge waves that press life forward. He was swept in to power and he will be swept out pretty irresistibly too. I cannot see that he will last his term or even a year. I agree with Michael Moore here from this article

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/11/12/michael-moore-trump-president-impeached-resign_n_12934970.html

He correctly forecast for Donald Trump to win the U.S. election, and now documentary filmmaker Michael Moore is predicting that the presidency will end with impeachment or resignation.

“Here’s what’s going to happen, this is why we’re not going to have to suffer through four years of Donald J. Trump, because he has no ideology except the ideology of Donald J. Trump,” Moore said Friday on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”

“And when you have a narcissist like that, who’s so narcissistic where it’s all about him, he will, maybe unintentionally, break laws. He will break laws because he’s only thinking about what’s best for him.”

I think that process of 26.6 is kind of described in that article. His election has polarised people and made people politically active. Here in the UK his inauguration speeches were reported as fairly horrendous and non conciliatory.

So in answer to your question of how to cope with political changes I think they are going to move so fast you will swept up with it and out the other side. I cannot believe this guy will last. He is not popular in the rest of the world, his ideology alienates many nations and isn't going to be tolerated. How he will be stripped of power I cannot say but I tend to think he really won't last long.
 

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the size and reaction by women, including internationally, shows how fluid the crisis is....one thing iching teaches...one must act from a position of calm...stay calm...things are changing rapidly, but, some of it will be changing for the better because all things turn into their opposite and often one need only wait....Keep consulting and learning....hope you are using the Willhelm Baynes translation......d
 

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This man was put into power by trolls on the net....the alt-r is miniscule compared to the population..and after seeing the turnout world-wide of women..one should join the reaction to these puny men and their silly alt-r ideas.
 

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I have been consulting the Wilhelm Baynes version for many weeks on this...and it is EXTREMELY accurate and wise....top advice...stay calm...times change...the wicked fail....if one is in weak position, one need only wait....there is some heavy problem in the eighth month, Sept/Oct..when evil returns as the cold in Autumn, but, overall evil will be banished....conserve money, resources...My conclusion from all readings is....this is a movement which leads to better conclusion after it's played out...I was also informed by a well-known psychic that there will be much fighting and then peace....after seeing the women's movnt today in Washington, I have no doubt who will prevail...and international movement of women and men is far beyond the strength of a nut job and a little mob of nazis. Stay calm...iching teaches...one must think and move from a position of calmness....My method is don't worry at night...deal with things in the morning....do something constructive from afternoon on and wake up to your intuitive thoughts...iching teaches this...hope you are using the Wilhelm Baynes book...and my method is dice.
 

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"clearly define justice and penalties...laws to be laid down...opposition makes this happen"
 

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"He is not popular in the rest of the world, his ideology alienates many nations and isn't going to be tolerated. " quote from Trojans

With all due respect to Trojina -
Trump is president of the United States and the citizens of the US elected him. His popularity with citizens of any other country is unimportant. Whether his ideology alienates other nations and is not tolerated by them is also not important to the fact that Trump is the elected head of the US- a sovereign nation.
 

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"Patriotism means standing by the country. It does not mean standing by the president. It is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else." - Theodore Roosevelt.
 

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The above URL leads to a page of bird pictures. Is that a mistake or am I not getting your point?
 

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I was trying to post one picture not whole page, I don't know how to post images from my phone so that was the best I could do. Was really trying to post just one image. Sorry will never be able to keep up with technology!!

But in answer to your question:

Both
 

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Sorry for the double post.
Also from the a few good men quote
You is the collective you, not any individual.
 

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Okay, so why a bird picture and what is your point?
 

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When I click on it I only get one picture
But anyway, question, is it a page of different kinds of birds?
 
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I asked the other day how I could best deal with the terrible news every day so as to be most effective in my own life. The backdrop is that I am in the U.S. and not only have I been seriously dismayed at the political changes in general with the last election, but the new Congress is already rushing through trying to repeal the health care changes that have made my life workable. I have several chronic illnesses and can only work part-time, so it will deeply harm my life if this goes through. Staying current with all the news, which I feel is important, is also making me very anxious.
Hi pallasathena,

I was thinking about how your reading relates to my own experience with 26.6 and what strikes me immediately is that you have to find a way of curbing your anxiety to find balance and strength within (I know, easier said than done). Events are playing on some sort of destiny level (ways of heaven) beyond our control and comprehension.

Also, I don't think we should consider your reading in the light of the whole Trump's administration. Your question is very specific about a subject that is very close to your life and well being. Trump's administration can be a total disaster and yet there might be a single policy, one single aspect in the healthcare system that could actually work fine for you.

I know you're worried about the future under Trump (who isn't?) but what I am trying to say is your reading is not about US politics, so it might actually be pointing out to you that on this specific aspect you asked about things will not turn out as badly as you fear, even if at the moment all looks bleak.
 

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I see 25 as the inexperienced soul who finds it quite daunting to have to learn all their life lessons through personal trial and error which leads to 26 and the image of wise counselors sharing their stories so one might learn from them rather than having to repeat the same mistakes. 26.6 then, in response to your question "How to deal with the terrible news?" could be seen as advice to keep open to it - perhaps that as you hear more of the stories, keep up with the latest info, that this leads to 11.Peace, the hexagram that describes everyone being able to go with the flow, or at least being in the same boat. Maybe this means that the more we keep aware of what's going on the less likely it is to cause anxiety, the more likely you are to find a way to flow with the situation.
 

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Events are playing on some sort of destiny level (ways of heaven) beyond our control and comprehension.
Am stealing that as a 26.6 note :D

I like the rest of what Mirian said, too. The words "better health care...for less money" were uttered by Trump; it would be nice if he actually meant it :rolleyes: and it turned out that way. Not holding my breath, just hoping.

Maybe this means that the more we keep aware of what's going on the less likely it is to cause anxiety, the more likely you are to find a way to flow with the situation.
Agree with that even though I suggested exactly the opposite, lol. Basically whatever will make you the least anxious at this point, whether that's paying a lot of attention or none.
 

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Thanks for everyone's input. I had a couple questions and clarifications -

Trojina (or anyone else who remembers this), do you know where that political predication post was that you said also resulted in 26.6? I thought that was very interesting that it was the same casting, and I'd like to read it.

I do think this reading is about how I can cope with the political changes overall, even though the health piece will affect me more specifically, because when I was focusing on my question, I did think about that, and decided it was about how to cope with all of it - basically the news every day is horrifying to me.

I can't say that either extreme of paying attention or not is helping anything; I've had days when I read a lot of news and feel really anxious, but I've also had a few days in a row when I need to focus on other things, and then when I return I'm horrified anew. And I personally kind of think it's morally irresponsible to try to ignore it, even though I also feel like I'm extremely limited in how I can affect any of it.
 

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Thanks for everyone's input. I had a couple questions and clarifications -

Trojina (or anyone else who remembers this), do you know where that political predication post was that you said also resulted in 26.6? I thought that was very interesting that it was the same casting, and I'd like to read it.
Ah, this is where it's very handy that Diamanda made a table of the questions since there were many and I'd never have found it other wise. Here is the link to the summary and on that page there is also a link to the original thread https://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?23529-Trump-or-Clinton From there it looks like it was from October 20th and was Steve's question so if you follow the link to the first thread you'd find that answer posted on Oct 20th. As I recall Steve thought it meant Trump's success but even then I saw it differently. You see I don't think Yi gives such sublime answers for something so fundamentally evil...and yes I think the ban on entry for people from 7 mainly muslim countries was/is simply wrong. (This is not a political 'opinion' anymore than objecting to Hitler packing Jews off in cattle trucks would be a political opinion...there are some things as you know that contravene basic human decency and the suffering caused by that ban, now over ruled by the court, was immense and it was indeed reminiscent of what happened in Germany back then.)

So since I see 26.6 as a line pretty much beyond our human will, destiny if you like, then I don't think this answer is telling you personally what to do, I think, as I said earlier, it's reassuring you this will pass through. You did ask 'how to cope' rather than 'what to do' so I'd see your answer as 'you can cope by being aware this is all part of a bigger process and this unfortunate phase will be 'moved along'. Impeachment looks increasingly likely to me although that alone may not help hugely (and I'm no political expert). Anyway you can see other views of the 26.6 reading by following that link

I do think this reading is about how I can cope with the political changes overall, even though the health piece will affect me more specifically, because when I was focusing on my question, I did think about that, and decided it was about how to cope with all of it - basically the news every day is horrifying to me.
Yes, but he isn't doing so well...at least not according to BBC news here...or anywhere else I look come to that. I mean he is overruled by the courts in his own country.

I can't say that either extreme of paying attention or not is helping anything; I've had days when I read a lot of news and feel really anxious, but I've also had a few days in a row when I need to focus on other things, and then when I return I'm horrified anew. And I personally kind of think it's morally irresponsible to try to ignore it, even though I also feel like I'm extremely limited in how I can affect any of it
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I agree it does seem morally irresponsible to try to ignore it, but everyone must do as they see fit, or what they can do..... Also you didn't ask about what to do but 'how to cope' ...Maybe you might ask about various actions that might seem appropriate to you ?
 

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