49. Ko / Revolution (Molting)

[maremaria]

"Yellow is the colour of the mean" what does that mean

Maybe it has to do with the golden mean

 

[frank_r]

49.1

The first line of 49 revolution. Trigram fire is changing into trigram mountain. Inner rationality is changing into personal wisdom. The duogram young yin, is changing into duogram old yin. So finaly there will be a real change possible here.

Coming from the well we know now where the clear water was coming from. We want to start the process of changing our future but it is a difficult start. The first line has help from the second but has no help from the 4th. So the help is coming only from the inside, the inner part of fire. And how long the fire is burning is dependent from the fuel there is available(the blue part of the red burning flame).
The blue part is the trust we have and, how much trust we have to set the revolution into motion.
It is necessary to have a constant feed back with the past and the feeling of where the well was getting fresh water from.
And this is what Charly already mentioned this is realy hard work, like bending iron with fire.

Frank

 

[rosada]

"We want to start the process of changing our future." Interesting idea, Frank! I'm thinking how the outcome of this recent election was so radically different from everything predicted just a year ago and also the much predicted war with Iran seems also to be nonevent. Perhaps we are finally coming to a level in group consciousness where we can indeed be co-creators of our destiny. The key seems to be the idea that what happens happens by agreement, and if that is so then everyone must be included, thus the golden mean - all consciousnesses included.

 

[rosada]

49. The Magician (is You)

49.1 "wrapped in the hide of yellow cow" ... an idea is coming into focus that is so radical, so mind boggling, so all inclusive it will blow away your whole concept of reality. Handle with care.

 

[frank_r]

The Chinese believed that before heaven and earth was created there was chaos. They called this chaos a yellow tint which was symbolized by the color of an egg yolk. Then it changed, becoming left/right, light/dark, up/down, male/female/ yin/yang - in other words the pair of opposites. The struggle is in maintaining a 'balance' between these two forces.

It is about seeing nature, your nature, another's nature as well as the nature of the world. There is an old saying in Chinese Medicine that says "If one folllows yin-yang and the four seasons, one will never suffer from diseases. Going against them, there comes catastrophe." True health comes when we follow the rules of nature.

I'm sure Frank can expand on this for us .

ravenstar

Hello Janice,

What a faith you have in me! This is what I can say about the mean, yin/yang and the four seasons.

The naming of this chaos is number one, but one is no real number because one is everything(belonging to Ming Men, the small Heart)
With two there was heaven and earth(even and uneven). With three there was live possible, because this gave the possibility of live in space. With the number four there also came time.
1+2+3+4=10 and 10 is 1 again, with the only difference that 1 is a expression of heaven and 10 is a expression of earth.

Looking to the 5 phases/elements the Chinese say that 1 is water, 2 is fire, 3 is wood, 4 is metal and 5 is earth.With 5 there was the first organisation possible. the 4 around a centre.The numbers one to five are all in the invisible range.
When you look to the numbers(with the picture from the website from Frank Kegan) you can also see that the 5 is in the centre, this is the middle line of three. This is the man level of the trigram.

And with six there was the organisation expressed in matter.
The expression from 6 and further is the expression from matter and also the four seasons.
That is why old yin is 6 - winter, young yang is 7 spring, 8 is young yin autumn and 9 is old yang summer. So this four are the expression of the first 5 that are in the invisble range. That is why we use the 6,7,8 and 9 to cast the hexagrams.
Knowing the mean is knowing the centre knowing the level of Man.
Knowing the seasons is knowing the expression in matter from the first 4.
Knowing these both is living according nature.

Frank

 

[meng]

Frank, it's just dawned on me that "Ming Men, the small Heart" may mean the same as "Myth Man": a name I gave this character, who appeared in a vision, and then who two weeks later came to me in the physical, and who symbolizes all that I call my self, but which are only my mechanisms, including ego, thoughts, reactions, emotions, etc. I've assigned him to hex. 7. Does this sound like Ming Men to you?

PS: For what it's worth, this was an altogether 49 personal experience.

 

[frank_r]

Frank, it's just dawned on me that "Ming Men, the small Heart" may mean the same as "Myth Man": a name I gave this character, who appeared in a vision, and then who two weeks later came to me in the physical, and who symbolizes all that I call my self, but which are only my mechanisms, including ego, thoughts, reactions, emotions, etc. I've assigned him to hex. 7. Does this sound like Ming Men to you?

PS: For what it's worth, this was an altogether 49 personal experience.

Hallo Bruce,

It is certainly water on the inside yes, and is also unpersonal trigram earth on the outside.
And the thunder part on the inside(in the nucleus) is also the power part of Ming Men.
Altogehter this is a good way to see Ming Men I guess.
Must be a very powerfull experience what you had!
Ming Men in person is somebody in the top of the army. Very powerfull with lots of energy.

Frank

 

[ravenstar]

Hello Janice,

What a faith you have in me! This is what I can say about the mean, yin/yang and the four seasons.

The naming of this chaos is number one, but one is no real number because one is everything(belonging to Ming Men, the small Heart)
With two there was heaven and earth(even and uneven). With three there was live possible, because this gave the possibility of live in space. With the number four there also came time.
1+2+3+4=10 and 10 is 1 again, with the only difference that 1 is a expression of heaven and 10 is a expression of earth.

Looking to the 5 phases/elements the Chinese say that 1 is water, 2 is fire, 3 is wood, 4 is metal and 5 is earth.With 5 there was the first organisation possible. the 4 around a centre.The numbers one to five are all in the invisible range.
When you look to the numbers(with the picture from the website from Frank Kegan) you can also see that the 5 is in the centre, this is the middle line of three. This is the man level of the trigram.

And with six there was the organisation expressed in matter.
The expression from 6 and further is the expression from matter and also the four seasons.
That is why old yin is 6 - winter, young yang is 7 spring, 8 is young yin autumn and 9 is old yang summer. So this four are the expression of the first 5 that are in the invisble range. That is why we use the 6,7,8 and 9 to cast the hexagrams.
Knowing the mean is knowing the centre knowing the level of Man.
Knowing the seasons is knowing the expression in matter from the first 4.
Knowing these both is living according nature.

Frank

Ah Frank! Thank you, you've clarified alot. I hadn't realized numbers 1 -5 were invisible! Yet when I think of it, it all makes sense. And number 6 is the expression of matter and seasons.....I didn't realize this either!

This also helps to understand the old yin (6) and young yin (7) as well as 8 and 9. This is tremendous in my understanding of TCM as well as the I Ching!

For your interest, the cycle of seasons can also rhythmically seen, as centering, emptying, grounding and connecting.

Centering is Autumn, (ending) a time of solitude and listening to our inner wisdom.

Emptying is Winter,(embryo potential) cleansing the mind and soul by releasing old thoughts, perceptions, attitudes and beliefs.

Grounding is Spring, (new growth) where we cultivate our powers of intuition, imagination and the intellect. The life of the seedling bursts forth. It's insistent rhythm is akin to that of a marching solider....hmm, Ming men??? (Wanted to add I just read that the energy grounded in Winter explodes above the earth in spring. Also that the 'terrible two's is our first spring cycle where we are exploring, expanding, moving upward and that whatever or whomever blocks our way will know our fury.)

Connecting is Summer, (fulfillment) sharing insights, creative expressions and compassion, enriching lives and raising global consciousness. It is a feeling of oneness, a connection to the network of universal energies. (adolescence is our first summer rhythm cycle)

The seasons of the earth, the phases of the moon all happen with a predictable pattern but what of our Soul. It too is influenced by the seasons and cycles of nature but is also influenced by 'Free Will"??? I do believe that we each go through our own cycles our own soul's growth and the intensity of each season will depend on the experiences we go through as well as our Soul's level of maturation.

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I 'love' your picture meng, what a vision! You have quite an artistic flair. Now Frank, you talk of Ming Men, as somebody on top of the army! I was taught (by a friend) Ming Men relates to 'The Door of Life"????? It is supposedly opposite the navel point and when we concentrate on it, the 'power' rises either up the back or descends to the feet. It is suppose to help when the 'power' suddenly surges up to the head. Is that somebody on top of the army? What of Yung-Chaun (soles of the feet), the 'bubbling spring', its energy also collects in the navel area? This is the body's electrical connection with earth energy. Would that also be a consideration in meng's 'Myth Man'?

Thanks,

ravenstar

 

[meng]

Hallo Bruce,

It is certainly water on the inside yes, and is also unpersonal trigram earth on the outside.
And the thunder part on the inside(in the nucleus) is also the power part of Ming Men.
Altogehter this is a good way to see Ming Men I guess.
Must be a very powerfull experience what you had!
Ming Men in person is somebody in the top of the army. Very powerfull with lots of energy.

Frank

Frank, thanks for confirming that.

The vision was very powerful, but not in the least bit dignified! When I saw Myth Man, and realized what he was, I laughed hysterically at my "self", depicted as a mere toy robot soldier, in the midst of a peak cycle of self-importance! It was great, and very funny.

This toy soldier came to me "accidentally" a couple weeks later, as I'd mentioned. Completely in this physical realm; and he (Myth Man) is stationed either on my altar or window sill, as a reminder of what I'm not, and also to honor him for all he does for me, even when he sometimes makes more problems than he solves.

 

[frank_r]

I 'love' your picture meng, what a vision! You have quite an artistic flair. Now Frank, you talk of Ming Men, as somebody on top of the army! I was taught (by a friend) Ming Men relates to 'The Door of Life"????? It is supposedly opposite the navel point and when we concentrate on it, the 'power' rises either up the back or descends to the feet. It is suppose to help when the 'power' suddenly surges up to the head. Is that somebody on top of the army? What of Yung-Chaun (soles of the feet), the 'bubbling spring', its energy also collects in the navel area? This is the body's electrical connection with earth energy. Would that also be a consideration in meng's 'Myth Man'?

Thanks,

ravenstar

Hello Janice,

Yes I understand, what has the door of life to do with the army?
But the top of the army I see as the strongest protection possible. The yang energy at the highest level.
Like the middle line of trigram water. The force of heaven in the seed.

Yung-Chaun at the sole of the feet is the wood point of the kidney. So this also has a lot of potential, from this point we get earth Energy from the earth. But for me this is more a yin point, and Ming Men is all about yang energy. And more about the control of yang and somebody on the top from the army has to control all the defensive forces.
But why do you consider Yung - Chaun as meng's Myth Men?

Frank

 

[fkegan]

Maybe it has to do with the golden mean

Hi maremaria,

Yellow also has to be with the mean or middle of the rainbow spectrum. Newton believed 7 a holy number and thus invented indigo. Without it one has yellow the middle between the hot red-orange-(yellow) and the cool green-blue-violet.

In terms of the first line of hex 49, the transition from prior conditions to this current situation of cyclic change like traditional Chinese Revolutions or the molting of animal skins the first step is creating a secure structure from which to take the private time and opportunity for such total change. The chrysalis of a caterpillar to become a butterfly comes to mind.

Hex 49.1 >> hex 31 The inner changes in process in hex 49 if changed by expressing and exhausting this initial transition or chrysalis will tend toward the new energy and romantic influence of hex 31. Therefore, this line is about the transition to a new relationship which in hex 49 is the first step in the total change of hex 49. As a novel initiative, this line stage requires restraint, discretion and patience, thus being wrapped in the strongest and calmest of hide until further development proceeds. To get the max bang from a dynamite charge, it is important to put it into a strong lump of mud to keep the early combustion of the chemicals from flying off too soon and stopping the total combustion and thus total power from developing.

Frank K

 

[ravenstar]

But why do you consider Yung - Chaun as meng's Myth Men?

Frank

Hi Frank,

Actually, I wasn't sure. I had quite an interesting talk with a friend of mine and this particular area came up in the discussion. Thought I'd ask your thoughts and advice on it. And as usual, you came through with flying colors! Thank you.

ravenstar

 

[ravenstar]

Hi maremaria,

Yellow also has to be with the mean or middle of the rainbow spectrum. Newton believed 7 a holy number and thus invented indigo. Without it one has yellow the middle between the hot red-orange-(yellow) and the cool green-blue-violet.

In terms of the first line of hex 49, the transition from prior conditions to this current situation of cyclic change like traditional Chinese Revolutions or the molting of animal skins the first step is creating a secure structure from which to take the private time and opportunity for such total change. The chrysalis of a caterpillar to become a butterfly comes to mind.

Hex 49.1 >> hex 31 The inner changes in process in hex 49 if changed by expressing and exhausting this initial transition or chrysalis will tend toward the new energy and romantic influence of hex 31. Therefore, this line is about the transition to a new relationship which in hex 49 is the first step in the total change of hex 49. As a novel initiative, this line stage requires restraint, discretion and patience, thus being wrapped in the strongest and calmest of hide until further development proceeds. To get the max bang from a dynamite charge, it is important to put it into a strong lump of mud to keep the early combustion of the chemicals from flying off too soon and stopping the total combustion and thus total power from developing.

Frank K

This is really interesting Frank K! And I want to add, you have quite a website that I've been frequenting of late.....thanks to frank_r

ravenstar

 

[rosada]

Thoughts..
Looking at how line one of hexagram 49 changes the trigram from fire to mountain. Fire represents great energy going outward, mountain is a barrier protecting outside energy from coming in. So when we are at 49.1 the temptation is to put out a sudden flash of energy, impose our vibration on the surrounding sky, but if we are smart we know that what goes out will come back and the feedback we get from our proclamation may not actually be what we are hoping to hear. Thus 49.1 urges, "Speak your truth very gently." Then the change to 31. Influence is Lake at the top, indicating an openness to receive feedback, but mountain at the base protecting us from having to take in a too violent response. So in preparing for making a bold announcement, it is good to first make a small gesture and get feedback to gauge how open one's audience is to receiving new information.

 

[rosada]

49.2
Six in the second place means:

When one's own day comes, one may create
revolution.
Starting brings good fortune. No blame.

When we have tried in every way to bring about reforms, but without success, revolution becomes necessary. But such a thoroughgoing upheaval must be carefully prepared. There must be available a man who has the requisite abilities and who possesses public confidence. To such a man we may well turn. This brings good fortune and is not a mistake. The first thing to be considered is our inner attitude toward the new condition that will eventually come. We have to go out to meet it, as it were. Only in this way can it be prepared for.

 

[ravenstar]

49.2
Six in the second place means:

When one's own day comes, one may create
revolution.
Starting brings good fortune. No blame.

When we have tried in every way to bring about reforms, but without success, revolution becomes necessary. But such a thoroughgoing upheaval must be carefully prepared. There must be available a man who has the requisite abilities and who possesses public confidence. To such a man we may well turn. This brings good fortune and is not a mistake. The first thing to be considered is our inner attitude toward the new condition that will eventually come. We have to go out to meet it, as it were. Only in this way can it be prepared for.

A true story which I think has to do with 49.2

When my children were in grade school, they had to cross a busy intersection to catch the school bus. For years a crossing guard was at this location guiding and helping the children to the other side of this busy road. Then the city decided to cut-back on the fundings for several crossing guards in different locations. Our crossing guard was one of them. I phoned the city to complain and expressed the need for the crossing guard to stay, but to no avail. Other neighbors did the same but still the city's decision stood.

One night some friends of mine came over and we pulled out the old Ouija board for fun. When it was my turn it spelled out the words 'save the children'. I was shocked and amazed at how the board had somehow dug up what was troubling me at the moment. I mean this was a ouija board!!! But it made quite an impact! I knew something had to be done to make city hall see we needed a crossing guard.

I organized a meeting with the people in my area and created a petition that was signed by over 500 parents. It was decided I would be the one to present the petition and our case before Council at city hall. Ohh my knees did shake at this prospect. What would I say, how would I prepare? My mind was shifting to several different thoughts and ideas. Other parents as well guided and offered guidance. My imagination kept visualizing different scenes and as the big day approached. my fear of stepping forward subsided and a new confidence began to emerge. I was able to relax and let my imagination work for me, I cleared my mind and focused on my goal. Different impressions and ideas came to mind and when something 'felt' right, a gut instinct, I wrote it down.

A group of us met once more before I approached Council. Together we gained insight by playing our ideas against one another. We could feel the inner and sometimes outer battle as we reformulated our plan. We weren't looking for a quick fix....we wanted to take the time to make an impact that would turn heads and change minds.

On that eventful day, we won and our story was written in our local paper. A crossing guard is still there to this day.

ravenstar

 

[frank_r]

Hello Janice,

A wonderfull event that realy gave power to change for the better. The love for the children was the fual that made this change possible. And this breakthrough was the outcome.
Beautifull example of 49.2.

Frank

 

[rosada]

I think it's a particularly apt example because 49.2 says "STARTING brings good fortune." You didn't know how you were going to proceed when you took up the challenge but then as you worked with it the way emerged. Good for you!

 

[maremaria]

Janice, what a nice story .

 

[meng]

Yes, nice application, Janice. And Rosada couldn't have introduced it any better than with her 49.1 comment: "So in preparing for making a bold announcement, it is good to first make a small gesture and get feedback to gauge how open one's audience is to receiving new information."

 

[maremaria]

so, line 49.1 is something like testing the waters ?

 

[rosada]

Yeah, I like that idea. like a small amount of electricty/change/unexpected is emited and you respond to it, the way you respond to it shows how able you are to respond to new information. Thinking how WATER is a powerful conduit for electricity. Emotions, often associated with water, are the quickest conduit for information - ie. when you know something in your heart, you know it's true without asking, without sending it up to the brain before acting. (Could be the meaning of 49.5?)

My dog left his earthly vehicle this week. 49.1 suggests to me he was a great spirit "wrapped in the hide of an animal." Ravenstar's experience makes me think the ouija board was playing the part of the "yellow cow hide" to channel the great spirit that spoke to her about the children.

Thank you, Meng for your words of encouragement. I visualize you with your dog now and I get a much clearer sense of you!

 

[meng]

so, line 49.1 is something like testing the waters ?

Borrowing from Brad's comments on line 1, how about "Itching for a change"? Or, after a day in too much sun, your skin turns red, and by the following day it begins to feel too tight, as though it would soon peel off.

 

[maremaria]

how about "Itching for a change"? .

I like that !!!

I recall , as a child , at our very first summer visit to the sea , we were not allowed to stay a lot in the sea and under the sun. That didn’t make me happy and always there was a negotiation to stay a little bit more.

So during at this 49.1 time , there is an urge to start a revolution, to dive from that high clift, to stay for hours under the sun but that is not wise. So that line advise us to slow down, don’t be very aggressive?

us : Revolution !!!!
Yi : ummm, maybe first you should.....
Us :

 

[meng]

Yeah, I'd agree with that.

 

[rosada]

"When one's own day comes, one may create revolution." Action brings splendid success.

This line is correct, central, and clear. The place is that of the official. As to connections above, it is in the relationship of correspondence to the ruler of the hexagram, the nine in the fifth place, and therefore has the potentiality of successful action. This is the moment indicated by the Judgement as being right for winning confidence (as regards the meaning of "one's own day," chi jih, cf. above). Here the configuration is especially clear: the trigram Li suggests day, while the middle line holds the place representing the earth, which stands in the south west next to Li (south).
-Wilhelm

 

[meng]

Any thoughts on differences between 49 and 23?

 

[frank_r]

Here the configuration is especially clear: the trigram Li suggests day, while the middle line holds the place representing the earth, which stands in the south west next to Li (south).
-Wilhelm

Trigram fire has a connection with the skull and the brain(Hard on the outside and soft on the inside), it is also connected with the spleen who is responsible for idea's. Trigram fire is changing in heaven and all nucleur trigrams also change in heaven. Together with trigram lake they all belong to the element of metal. The season of "Centering is Autumn, (ending) a time of solitude and listening to our inner wisdom". As Janice wrote.

So to be of help for the ruler on five we have to use our brain and inner wisdom and find bright idea's for making the change real.

Frank

 

[frank_r]

Any thoughts on differences between 49 and 23?

Hello Bruce,

Intersting comparisment 23 and 49.
The first that comes in mind that 23 is letting things go on a personal earthly level(all trigrams are belonging to the earth element). The transition to a new phase, a new beginning. A step into the unknown. A change from yin- earth, the unconciousness.

Where 49 is more about a change because you learned about the mistakes. A change of yang -Heaven.
That you can adjust your character because you had deep insights how things are working. In 49 you have contact with the past and are in contact with everything around you. A conscious step.
In 23 you are desintegrating and can be build up again without knowing what there was before.

Frank

 

[maremaria]

I think than at 23 times there is always a feeling of lose . Either willingly or unwillingly we asked to give something, make something we don’t want to give.

In 49 there is a change , as frank said. Again maybe we leave something behind but we don’t mind because we focus more on the new thing.