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Hi, Water:...
I always told my students that, "a parrot speaks like us but don't understand our meaning. Do not study I Ching like a parrot".
Hi, Chingching:so in terms of already crossing what does 63 uc say?
whoops although i belive thinking about cooking omlettes has given me wisdom.I meant 64
Hi, Water:
I agree with you, but may I give you an advice? Don´t underestimate parrots. They speak languages for their own use and for reasons that only they know.
If they study the Changes it ought to be from some oral tradition and with parrot masters.
Parrots are not too different from us from the point of view of motivation but, good for the human pride, they don´t read. I believe.
Yours,
Charly
P.D.
From Yellowbridge:
鹦鹉学舌 yīngwǔxuéshé: to parrot; to repeat uncritically what somebody says
Even the chinese have the same prejudice agaist parrots.
Ch.
Of course, I agree with you. Only that I like parrots. And that prejudice always permeate in some degree our own sight. One of the things, I believe, that diviners need is to remain connected with their animal beings, if you prefer the «unconscious».Charly,
That is exactly what I meant. Study I Ching should not have any prejudice nor prejudgment. However, seem like you understand it in an opposite way.
Water 0n Earth
Not the parots that speak with little sense but ourselves.
Hi, Ginnie:...
63.3 > 3
The high ancestor attacks the Demon Country.
Three years go round, and he overcomes it.
Don't use small people.
The implication seems to be that he might have saved himself the time and trouble and not bothered with this at all.
Maybe the implication is that the high ancestor could have done something better with those three years and all those resources?
I think hex 63 applies in general to activities that recur. That is, you finish it, whatever it is, and that was good. And then that work starts again. It's referring to something cyclical.
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... and it could all turn to dust at any moment so keep going...?
there is something bigger about 1, 2, 63 and 64.
'It must not become an alms house for those lacking initiative to make their own way' (paraphrase of Wilhelm), nor a place for thieves who steal power and wealth. Maintaining order in a civilization, great or small, once that civilization's laws are written in stone (63), they need to be upheld, and occasionally amended.
To follow up on this, Sooo ... Do you know the source of the concept of an amendment to a law that has already been written?
However, W/B does not mention thieves or people who steal power. W/B does mentions the human tendency to expand. Colonial expansion was the example given.
At the beginning good fortune.
At the end disorder.
Wilhelm 63
However this can happen inside any household, any business, anywhere. Any family member, for example, can take over more than his or her share of the available space, and there can be endless fights over that. What does one do with unruly children or adults who misbehave, for example?
There is no need now to involve more people, especially since the people you are thinking of bringing in are completely inexperienced with the matter at hand."
Why should not a chicken cross the road?
It would be a fowl proceeding.
I've made past associations of 63 to define it as representing an "expert", someone who is already accomplished, a professional, a graduate of whatever I'm trying to achieve.
Hi Ginnie,
I'm not sure IC has a philosophy, or at least one that we can narrow down to a philosophy independent of our own nature, aptitude, and personality.
from a quick glance that reading looks like "why did the chicken cross the road?" (to get to the other side).
Hi Sooo
I've often noted that the Yi is more of a psychology than a philosophy. And an ethic, even the original Zhouyi, not just the Da Xiang. How to live a better life.
For me it's often all summed up in the short and oft-repeated phrase "You Fu", which the silly people translate "there will be a capture'. I think the both the core and the literal meaning is simply "Be True". Significantly, the Yi never says what true is, and especially not Truth. Deep down we know what True is. We just tend to be liars is all, and we just ought to stop doing that.
Which truth is true ? a question with a difficult answer , if there is an objective answer.
You said "We just tend to be liars is all, and we just ought to stop doing that." And I believe you are correct. I recall I had a reading which at the first glance was pretty literal but when I asked the question i mentioned before something else surfaced and made me realize that I was lying, denying a part of that situation.
Maybe its a cheesy question, but how much or not in your experience , or from your observations, Yi assists one to the process of "stop lying". during that truing process does it intervene ?
To my experience , i haven't felt any intervention. i'm just given an image of the situation. i get usually a "this is what it is" so, it seems that its contribution stops there and its on our hands how far we intend or be able to go. Is it what really is ?
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