Hex 34.4 to 11 - Love

[frankii]

Hello, this is my first post, although I have been a reader for years on this page. I recently broke up with my girlfriend and we have not talked for 1 week. Yesterday I asked when we will be together again ( it is my desire) and I obtained hexagram 34.4 to 11. I did not understand until recently that I should stop talking to her and let her decide if she wants me back. I understand this is in the hands of God now but I do not give up my desire to be together again. Did anyone get something similar? Thanks!

 

[juaneros]

Hi Frankii. I think that's a good Hex and line to get... but yes, I believe it is telling you to leave things as they are so they can run smoothly later on with no regrets and no entanglements. Not sure if you can have a romantic relationship with her again, hexagram 11 could also mean you can be friends at least at peace with each other. I've gotten this line before, not sure for what question, but I think it's pretty clear cut. Anyhow, wish you luck.

 

[freimuth]

Hi Frankii,
I find this line auspicious but one should wait for the right time to act. Wilhem writes: "Wenn man beharrlich und still fortarbeitet an der Beseitigung der Widerstände, dann gelingt es schließlich" (when people tenaciously act to eliminate the obstacles they eventually succeed". The spirit of the hexagram is also that one should act correctly and respect the common-sense rules not rush anything. But as I said I find this line favorable and perhaps being tenacious and correct is's all that it takes to succeed. Good luck!

 

[MusicianSavant]

How did things work out for you?

 

[Trojina]

How did things work out for you?

Here's a hot tip when asking people for updates. Check their profile to see when they were last active here. If they haven't been on the forum for years they probably won't come by to answer your query.

You can see their profile by clicking on their name. From the profile option you can see all their previous threads, whether they responded etc, when they were last here.

Now this person here, franki, joined on 24/11/2016, posted his query on 25/11/2016 and got two replies from people who took the time and energy and thought to help him. frankii however just couldn't summon the energy to even say 'thanks', ignored the offering of the respondents and never came back again !

Now given that behaviour do you really think frankii is going to bother to come back a year later to tell you how things played out ? I don't think it's that likely although one never can tell I suppose.


I cannot think of any other situation in life where a person asks another person for their time, energy and knowledge, takes it, and then walks off without even a nod of the head can you ? So why is it okay here ? Why is it part of the culture here and why should it be an ongoing part of the culture here ?

So don't waste time asking for updates from people who aren't likley to give them and speaking of updates you yourself had a reply from Moss Elk here https://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/fri...Relationship-question-Hex-43-unchanging-twice

He is now asking you for an update or even some kind of response would be nice.


I don't get how this works, what goes on in people's minds. It's a great puzzle to me Why do they think it is okay or acceptable just tot take things, ask for things and then just never respond to or acknowledge the giver ?
What's their psychology ? Have you any ideas ?

Perhaps they think people who respond here have nothing better to do ? Perhaps they think it is easy just interpreting their answers for them, perhaps they think they are entitled to free readings whenever they want and they don't need to give anything back at all. Perhaps they just don't care and as long as they get what they came for screw everyone else ? What do you think ?

 

[Trojina]

Footnote.

The above was an impotent rant I generally relieve myself of about once a year. But I am not alone, most regular respondents aren't so keen on being completely ignored after putting thought into interpreting a reading for someone. Here is a link to Rosada's solution

https://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/fri...te-or-encouraging-results&p=242901#post242901

I agree with that although I think mostly it isn't that people want to be thanked effusively for every little thing just for their own gratification, I think the issue is also one of one sharing and learning about the I Ching. If a person never returns to a thread no one who ever comes across that thread in future knows how it played out.. They can't see if the interpretations offered really did connect to that person's experience and everyone loses out.

 

[Tohpol]

It's a simple formula of exchange: You ask = You receive = You gain clarity in order to make a choice = You move forward. The loop is completed by coming back to say what happened and we all learn; the whole is enriched with more knowledge, thereby ensuring that the next person who asks might get a better quality response. And so it goes on...

That formula can be applied to almost everything in life, though it appears to happen so rarely.

Maybe some folks are happy to take - either on a forum, in a relationship or in business - and simply don't give a shit when things are going peachy. I don't think it's human nature, I just think its a lack of "response-ability" and integrity.

My rant.

(Now I'm going to check I haven't forgotten to reply to any of my own threads...)

 

[angelatlantis14]

Yes, some people seem to confuse this site with a free-of-charge fortune telling site ....
I don't think there is much that can be done against it, annoying people just do exist

for myself, if someone I have answered is ungracious or dismissive by either not achnoledgeing it at all, ob by just talking over it, then this one time is the last time I am answering their queries. When ignored, most of them soon lose interest.

Also I think there a number of warning signs for less-than-serious posters:

1) have only 1/2 posts to their name and have very recently joined
2) Give either no background to their question at all or an excessive amount which has very little to do with actual I ching readings, but more with the general emotional state of the person
3) Have no own interpretation of the resulting reading
4) Copy large amounts of other people's interpretations verbatim
5) ... there is probably more, but I think you get the drift

best wishes

maui

 

[MirrorTouch]

On the other hand...

I am not very tech oriented and also have a brain injury. When my favorites and/or history get deleted, as happened last night, I forget how to get back to a thread; sometimes I even forget I've asked a question. It doesn't mean I don't value or appreciate you and your efforts. Isn't this an example of Hex 4? That line about not striking the ignoramus?

 

[Serafena]

Here's a hot tip when asking people for updates. Check their profile to see when they were last active here. If they haven't been on the forum for years they probably won't come by to answer your query.

You can see their profile by clicking on their name. From the profile option you can see all their previous threads, whether they responded etc, when they were last here.

Now this person here, franki, joined on 24/11/2016, posted his query on 25/11/2016 and got two replies from people who took the time and energy and thought to help him. frankii however just couldn't summon the energy to even say 'thanks', ignored the offering of the respondents and never came back again !

Now given that behaviour do you really think frankii is going to bother to come back a year later to tell you how things played out ? I don't think it's that likely although one never can tell I suppose.


I cannot think of any other situation in life where a person asks another person for their time, energy and knowledge, takes it, and then walks off without even a nod of the head can you ? So why is it okay here ? Why is it part of the culture here and why should it be an ongoing part of the culture here ?

So don't waste time asking for updates from people who aren't likley to give them and speaking of updates you yourself had a reply from Moss Elk here https://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/fri...Relationship-question-Hex-43-unchanging-twice

He is now asking you for an update or even some kind of response would be nice.


I don't get how this works, what goes on in people's minds. It's a great puzzle to me Why do they think it is okay or acceptable just tot take things, ask for things and then just never respond to or acknowledge the giver ?
What's their psychology ? Have you any ideas ?

Perhaps they think people who respond here have nothing better to do ? Perhaps they think it is easy just interpreting their answers for them, perhaps they think they are entitled to free readings whenever they want and they don't need to give anything back at all. Perhaps they just don't care and as long as they get what they came for screw everyone else ? What do you think ?

Fwiw, I read your answers a lot. And I often google the line I get and read other people’s questions and interpretations. So even if the OP doesn’t get the benefit, lots of other people benefit from your input, even years later