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Trojina

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I think I said way back at the start I would stay out of this one since it involved deception of others. Not that I claim any moral high ground exactly but cheating in relationships is wrong and that's a pretty fundamental thing IMO you can't fudge around.

But now I think you are even more deceived than deceiving
. I changed city, and we met again in November of this year , very powerfully but ... a ex of him has decided to keep a baby that he doesn't after a force encounter with her she decided to keep the baby that he doesn't want. She literally forced him to have a last sexual encounter with her and than left with the surprise . She wants him to be the father , she seems very fragile person, she on medication , they were in a liaison not in love.


Do you actually believe this story ? Really ? Have you met her ? Okay so she's 'fragile' and on medication yet she pinned him to the bed and raped him and now he has a baby he doesn't want, love or care about. To him it was a 'liason' not 'love' so that means he has no responsibility for the life he just bought into the world ? Also no responsibility for a fragile woman on medication he enjoyed sex with. How many of them, women I mean actually in his life ? I get the impression there's probably more than the ones you even know about and he accomplishes all this in the name of 'love'. If people, babies, children get hurt along his path of deception there's not love.


Of course she didn't force him to have sex ! I wonder how often he spins this piffle to the various women he strings along. If you got pregnant he'd probably tell another woman you 'forced' him and you were 'fragile'. If she was that fragile why did he play around with her. It's just a classic situation of the man telling the woman he's with at the time the other women he's pregnated or slept with are too crazy/clingy/neurotic/on medication.

I think I need a time line to express it : so we met in February 2016, after 3 months he said to me that he was involve with someone, but at that I didn't care . So we were in a hidden relationship from February 2016 to October 2017 when he split up with his ex.

Right got that.

Than we went in a professional absolutely fabulous professional and lover experience until June 2018. Then we split up , din't manage to commit together clearly. We were sending some nice sms and news from time to time, both we were really sad of the situation but not mentioning it ever to each others.

Okay so it just fell apart.
Then , I made a move , we reconnected in September 2020... 2019 was hell for both of us. I changed city, and we met again in November of this year , very powerfully but ... a ex of him has decided to keep a baby that he doesn't after a force encounter with her she decided to keep the baby that he doesn't want.

Then you contacted him and it was okay but there's another woman he's got pregnant so he has responsibilities now,

At a guess I'd say this was a really nifty get out plan so he doesn't have to wholly commit to you, so he can keep you in half relationship where it's always 'complicated' ie he wants to see lots of different women. He's good at all the love stuff, has the right words so you fall for it. Where I lose some patience with you is you don't empathise with these other women. Instead you believe the lies he tells about them. If he doesn't want a baby it's tough because he's got one and now that baby must be his priority.



She literally forced him to have a last sexual encounter with her and than left with the surprise . She wants him to be the father , she seems very fragile person, she on medication , they were in a liaison not in love. Now...the situation for him is complex but he will manage and I accept him , because we never stopped loving and thinking to each others since. So I asked the YJ 3 questions :

Well I already said what I think of this. It's a ridiculous tale. He's probably told her you are fragile and on medication. If men want to play several women telling a woman the one he's kind of stuck with is mad/fragile/ it seems to be a good line for naive women. I think you are being naive.

So you asked 3 questions



What is the situation between him and the mother of it's supposed son ? 18.1.3 to 41
She wants to make a responsible father out of him. Anyway, the relationship doesn't seem to develope into something significant.


Well she isn't making a father out of him he is a father. He is a father responsible for a baby now.
If he didn't want the baby he is going to have to want it now since that baby deserves everything from him, he's responsible for the baby. I think you said he already has another child also.

Perhaps 18.1 shows his own father behaved in a corrupted way so he's taken that on but now he needs to redeem that. Also maybe his new son will redeem him in some way.


This morning I asked with a better energy than last night, what's next between us : 44.2.5 to 56 , that says to me : keep it very very low profile until the deliverance of his situation

You didn't need to ask again, the 'energy' makes no difference. This idea of keeping a low profile until he is delivered of the other woman and his son ? Been there before haven't you with his ex....how many times are you going to fall for this ? Bluntly he's no good is he. A man who comes and tells you, after you sought him out, that this fragile woman forced him to have sex and now he has a baby he doesn't want isn't a good man to get involved with. You believe all the bad things he says about the other women as mistresses who get stringed along for decades do. Wake up.


You don't need a soothsayer or a medium you just need to open your eyes. Also try having some solidarity with other women. Why don't you call this 'fragile' woman and talk to her ? I know you're going to say he didn't mean, when he said he was 'forced' to have sex with her, that she physically raped him but you know he can't really be emotionally forced to have sex with her either. It's a feeble story from a feeble man. Try talking to the other women he's stringing along in non committed relationships.


 
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Ok because of the reponse I get here from Trojina etc and their projections on what is good or not I will delete this . Trojina believe or not we DO LOVE STRONGLY EACH OTHERS . Best SS
 
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and by the readings I had from today, I will keep this love story secret and protect her not talking about it here. Thank you to all. My way is to keep clear path from bad vibes and to allow love in my life . And joy ;)
 
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and by the readings I had from today, I will keep this love story secret and protect her not talking about it here. Thank you to all. My way is to keep clear path from bad vibes and to allow love in my life . And joy ;)
If I have just one piece of advice to give you, it is not to tell all the details : to read the hexagram as best as possible, just say the subject, a summary of the context, and ideally your interpretation of the hexagrams. On the other hand, there is a very interesting article by Hilary for "Advise for relationships reading". Take care
 
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Matali,

You just encouraged deception for the purpose of maintaining permanent immaturity. That is terrible advice.

There is a baby involved in the story (of these two lovers), whose life and wellbeing is more important than the gratification of these two people behaving like adolescents.

There is no evil in true love.
 
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Anything ! I don't encourage deception ! I just give her the advice not to tell all the details here...
 

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Dear All,
I m back after a year in order to give you an update of this quiet long love story !
Lots has happen since my latest post and guess what ? we are still in love , together and free, living in differents towns but close and happy. We were very happy to reconnect together last year, been trough a lot together . We can say that this relationship is very important and very original , but love is this way also.

Regarding his troubles, I decide not to talk about it it's not my business.

My last reading is the flowing one :
27.2.4.5 to 10.
So if you want to comment , please do and we can talk about it .
Best regards
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Dear all especially @Trojina ,
I think I have made a real journey since my stupid and blind period.
I read back your replies to my blindness and I feel a little ashamed to see how right you were and how I was blind and childish.
Since this post, a lot happened and my life , I left him and for good exactly because I couldn't stand his attitude towards his "non wanted son" , taking no responsibility and in one quote from him I decided to leave the relationship and felt so much better right away. Than we had a mental fight, he tried everything to keep me and to have me under his thumb more but no. It suddenly struck me that I was trying to commit to an awful macho selfish idiot. I have no regrets, I have no feelings ors sadness , just a little nostalgia from time to time but I do not love him now and even I wonder if I did one day ... I see more more clearly who he is under his masks and I feel that he is quiet sick in fact. So now, my path is free from him and his troubles and I feel greater and greater everyday, recovering from a long dispecable relationship based on fackness and manipulations. Of course he wants to keep me as a friend or what ever but right now it's impossible and not wanted . His son is one year old on the 31 of January and he 's behaving like someone who will never take his responsibility. It's not ok with me this time. A kid is a kid and both parents should have their responsibilities towards him.
My rage is still rising sometimes as I realized more and more how he treated me during all these years and I want to slap him in the face very sincerely but ... I want to cool down and move on.

So here some questions and feel free to help me on the interpretations :

- What is the correct path in the my situation with François ?

25.2.5 to 38
For m it's saying , keep it cool and straight and be open to communicate if needed but let things go with flow of life .

- I ask if I will be revenge from him and got

5.3.4.6 to 10
I seems that I will have to wait and that something will happen within a trio ?

- I ask, what do I have to do in order to recover from the relationship and make him respect me :
1.2.4 to 37
I don't get it at all ... it seems like I am already over and that I have to tell him like "normal" ?

Thank you for your feedbacks and hope to read you soon.
J
 

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What is the correct path in the my situation with François ? 25.2.5 to 38
Not to have anything to do with him. Becoming strangers.

I ask if I will be revenge from him and got 5.3.4.6 to 10
Wait for a while, don't act, but don't remain in the "pit" either. Some unexpected force/person/thing will ease your situation.

what do I have to do in order to recover from the relationship and make him respect me : 1.2.4 to 37
Meet mature people, accept that there's a transition time, and stay with what you can call your family.
 

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What is the correct path in the my situation with François ? 25.2.5 to 38
Not to have anything to do with him. Becoming strangers.

I ask if I will be revenge from him and got 5.3.4.6 to 10
Wait for a while, don't act, but don't remain in the "pit" either. Some unexpected force/person/thing will ease your situation.

what do I have to do in order to recover from the relationship and make him respect me : 1.2.4 to 37
Meet mature people, accept that there's a transition time, and stay with what you can call your family.
Thank You @marybluesky it make sense ! :)
 

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