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Ah, a bone-head error on my part! Thanks (I guess? ) for pointing that out. I went back and changed my initial reading. Luckily I think the rest of my interpretation still holds up. (Sometimes I feel that divination includes these 'happy accidents, and they can also be 'correct' - but I did go back and change it in this reading so as not to get distracted.)dfreed: In the above post #6 you referred to hexagram 50 but 21.3 changes to hex.30.Any thoughts on what 30 means here?
I gave this reading my best shot and I think it has validity - in that I can find ties between my interpretation and the words and images of the Yi (found in the reading).I'm feeling more in agreement with your interpretation but what do you say to Hilary's comment that 21.3 means something doesn't have the effect you want and that there are better ways to get the desired results?
Sadly the current vaccines do not offer immunity. Fingers crossed that any new ones will.Maybe we are the cattle and the vaccine leads to Herd immunity...
Maybe we are the cattle and the vaccine leads to Herd immunity...
(and later) ... my comment about herd immunity was a ... clever pun about ... cattle,
One possibility for this is that universal masking and better cooperation/quarantine eradicated the virus in China, Vietnam, and New Zealand, and controlled small outbreaks exceptionally well. So much so that China waived it's early access to vaccines to give to worse off countries. The way it's been done here in the U.S., for example, is definitively not the best way. Relying largely on just the vaccine has been catastrophic in terms of death and long-term illness, economically, so many things. It's pretty clear it's not actually the best way to get the desired results, so that's one way it could relate. It seems like appreciating it for what it can do without overstating the outcome might be in the message there somewhere,but what do you say to Hilary's comment that 21.3 means something doesn't have the effect you want and that there are better ways to get the desired results? Or is the vaccine an exception to this because while the vaccine is indeed a poison, in this case a poison is a good thing?
I'm unsure what you are getting to here:It's like a small poison that makes you suffer a bit.
It's not harmful, but I doubt the I Ching finds it effective. Nothing indicates that.
Yes, I mean thatI'm unsure what you are getting to here:
Are you saying that this indicates that the Yi is saying this - that small poison makes you suffer a bit, but it is not harmful, but neither is it affective; or that the Yi is not saying this? (And therefore the vaccines may in fact be effective?)
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It seems that your interpretation (or your interpretation of Hilary's interpretation) is that we should not have just relied on the vaccines to fight/end COVID, but we would be better off right now if we had also acted like Vietnam and China (i.e. communist countries) and forced / demanded / required ... isolation, quarantines, mask-wearing, social distancing, and vaccinations. Is that about it?One possibility for this is that universal masking and better cooperation/quarantine eradicated the virus in China, Vietnam, and New Zealand, and controlled small outbreaks exceptionally well.
I notice how the whole 'vaccine' narrative at the moment is definitely one of bullying and harrassing, ....
Diamants interesting point re being humiliated.
Two ideas:But i have often had this reading when the situation did involve real toxicity.
Okay, so you mean the reading could go either way (it means this, or it doesn't mean this), or perhaps that you or we don't know what the Yi is saying.Yes, I mean that
I feel this statement is wrong, or at minimum is misleading. I checked with a friend who is a retired nurse, and she confirmed: COVID vaccines (and many, or all other vaccines) act in a similar way - they prepare our immune systems to fight a virus. by producing immunity-boosting white blood cells, and other things. Then when we are actually expose to a virus - our immune system kicks into gear, and it does not let the virus 'catch hold', nor thrive - nor spread further.Sadly the current vaccines do not offer immunity.
Ha. I was just reading some little bubble of media outrage in the Indonesian papers about an employer (not a very large one) who posted some job vacancies with a notice saying that he wouldn't accept any applicant who had been vaccinated, because he didn't want to deal with them getting sick and dying over the next few months. Personally, I appreciated the fact that he included the notice. I have a feeling that it's a fair warning that he would be an absolute arsehole to work for in every possible area. It's better to be aware of that before you apply for the job. It doesn't seem like he's actually broken any laws, but I think he's going to get firmly smacked down regardless. He's a foreigner, making loud and nasty comments about Indonesia's national vaccination program. I think they'll find a way of making his life difficult for him regardless.A friend's granddaughter decided to get vaccinated (her parents encouraged her to do this, but since she's over 18, the decision was hers). She planned to get vaccinated and then go on a camping trip with her boyfriend and his parents. Her boyfriend's mom - who is decidedly anti-vax - then told here that if she got vaccinated, she could not go on the trip with them.
Many nurses in London are anti-lockdown and anti-mask. Does that make them right, just because they're nurses? Of course not.I feel this statement is wrong, or at minimum is misleading. I checked with a friend who is a retired nurse, and she confirmed: (...)
Ah well. Sometimes it takes a bit of time to kill you.The position of the line is not appropriate. Not a positive auspice. At least i haven’t died from taking the vaccine though!
Ah well. Sometimes it takes a bit of time to kill you.
And this proves? As far as I can tell, it's only saying that some nurses don't like masks nor 'lock-downs', but it is saying nothing about what they know or feel about immunity, herd immunity, or the COVID vaccines. And I think it also 'proves' that just because you have your beliefs about what immunity is, or what the COVID vaccines are - or how they work - that doesn't make you right either.Many nurses in London are anti-lockdown and anti-mask. Does that make them right, just because they're nurses? Of course not.
Irfan, are you saying that you’re interpretation of this reading is that COVID-19 vaccines will kill us? (But they will do it slowly.)Ah well. Sometimes it takes a bit of time to kill you.
I take what you said to mean that perhaps ... “this 'narrative' cuts both ways, or perhaps that this "narrative of bullying and harassing" - fall into the 'suspect-news category.”some little bubble of ... outrage
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