What if I were to look for a new place through low income housing? 60.3 > 5

[floranova]

Hmm I mean, I definitely qualify. I'm well below the income limit, so I'm not sure what line 3 is referring to. Hex 5 in this situation makes perfect sense, there are waitlists for these things. I don't know what it is that I need to limit in order for this to work out. Any ideas? I was looking into getting roommates instead but that costs as much as a studio apartment in my city. Absolutely insane prices these days.

 

[thisismybody]

Maybe the limitation is concerning how you articulate the kind of place you want to live in. Sometimes low-income housing isn’t as safe as other kinds of housing, in my experience. Not always the case bc it depends where the housing is located.

Maybe wait it out to find more suitable housing. Or be patient during your search and clearly articulate what exactly you’re looking for during your search so you don’t end up with just low-income housing, but something undesirable.

So maybe 60.3 is pointing to having clearer boundaries for your search. Low-income housing as a qualifier might just be too open ended. Maybe Yi is advising to be more specific and patient so you might get the housing that is a good fit for you. Choosing housing is like choosing a friend or partner. Definitely shouldn’t just go for low hanging fruit. Articulate your needs.

 

[Trojina]

Speaking as someone who lives in 'low income housing' it isn't any less safe than other housing though it does depend on location of course.

In the UK certainly it is a very very long wait for low income housing so it is never the case one can just opt for it and it is never just 'low hanging fruit' since it takes years and years to get anywhere and these days even homeless people have to wait years

In general it's a bad idea to have a good idea or option and then not go ahead because of an answer one doesn't understand. There can be no harm in going on a waiting list especially as it may be years and years before you get anywhere.

The line says

'Not like limiting means it will be like lamenting.
Not a mistake.'

That says to me it is a good idea to make definite plans rather than leave things open. It does not say to me 'no do not take a sensible move and go on low income housing list'. Agreed it's not the clearest answer, I don't know why you cast this but neither can I see why anyone on a low income wouldn't go on a social housing waiting list at least in UK. Don't know what country you are in.

 

[Liselle]

Another word for 60 is "Articulating" - I wonder if that's a better fit for this one than "Limiting." Grow another segment on the bamboo stalk (go ahead and apply?), in the context of expectant waiting. If you end up no longer qualified when your number comes up, no harm done. But if you don't articulate, you might lament.

I'm not happy with how I'm explaining that - does it make any sense?

 

[thisismybody]

I meant low-hanging fruit as in taking the first thing or easiest thing to get, or something offered but not the thing one should want. Maybe the low-hanging fruit in this situation isn’t low-income housing or maybe it is. Not all housing is created equal.

Here in Texas, USA, location and crime ratings go hand in hand here. Safe low-income housing in Texas is definitely dependent on whether city or town and what part of the city. We also have high-end, low-income housing in cities. This is rare and wouldn’t be low-hanging fruit. Theft, mugging, etc. are higher in most of these communities, depending on the location. So is the quality of the housing. I work for a utility company and there are low-income housing projects we won’t go into without police and areas that police stay away from. I work in energy management and could list my reasons for being aware of the location of the housing, especially since I’ve responded to two hostage unit calls in the past 6 months. Seems the UK is different than Texas.

Going on waitlist doesn’t hurt anything. Low-income housing in a more stable or nicer area seems a thing one would want to articulate. But we apply to the particular housing of our choice here based on area. We call it section 8 housing. Some of it is pretty nice. Maybe floranova has this option.

…also, section 8 housing is offered by private companies and home or apt owners here.

 

[thisismybody]

Another word for 60 is "Articulating" - I wonder if that's a better fit for this one than "Limiting." Grow another segment on the bamboo stalk (go ahead and apply?), in the context of expectant waiting. If you end up no longer qualified when your number comes up, no harm done. But if you don't articulate, you might lament.

I'm not happy with how I'm explaining that - does it make any sense?

Articulating seems a better fit. Like saying what you want or even articulating that you’re the candidate for the opportunity.

 

[moss elk]

Articulating seems a better fit. Like saying what you want or even articulating that you’re the candidate for the opportunity.

You and Liselle are mixing up two things that have nothing to do with each other.
You are thinking of the Biology term Articulation which is not a synonym with speaking. (Though funnily, the Chinese and Latin both originate in 'joint')

60 has nothing to do with speaking or enunciation or asserting ones will or wishes, Articulation is a terrible terrible choice of names for 60. It's more about coloring within the lines.

60.3 is a harsh warning about the consequences of having no limitations (usually for oneself) It's a line of suffering.

 

[moss elk]

I'm not happy with how I'm explaining that - does it make any sense?

that makes two of us!

The word for 60 means 'joint'
As in the hard segmenting joints of bamboo. Any given segment of bamboo has hard sides on both ends, the hard spots are the limitation of a given segment: it's this big and no bigger.
Limits, edges, boundaries, amounts sufficient and not excessive...etc

In human behaviour, which Yi is often referring to, this line could refer to : doing too much of something and suffering for it. It can refer to having no boundaries.

I've recieved this line after spending too much money or waking up with a hangover. (See? From not respecting limitations)

 

[thisismybody]

You and Liselle are mixing up two things that have nothing to do with each other.

60 has nothing to do with speaking or enunciation or asserting ones will or wishes, Articulation is a terrible terrible choice of names for 60.

60.3 is a warning about the consequences of having no limitations (usually for oneself) It's a line of suffering.

Agree to disagree. We create boundaries and limits when we define an area or something, such as what we want. The boundaries of a body of water are defined by the banks of it. This is in here and that’s out there. We can do this with things we’re seeking as well.

I’ve had this answer come up to a question about gender and identity. Defining by placing limits through articulating what something is and is not. Not some amorphous being. That’d be a little more non-binary, I guess. But even that seems to have a definition of what it is.

 

[thisismybody]

Articulation as a boundary, a limit. We do that when we define what we want, when we enunciate.

60.3 - I’ll accept any housing (place no limits and not say no) as long as it’s affordable, or I’ll accept any relationship as long as I’m never alone. Definitely will suffer.

 

[Liselle]

Fair enough, M.E. I can't explain things like hexagram names.

The idea of limiting where to apply might have something to it. We don't know, because we don't know how it works where Floranova lives.

 

[breakmov]

Hello floranova

What if I were to look for a new place through low income housing? 60.3 > 5​

What if this answer was an indirect way of considering the reason that led you to ask this question?

Were you trying to find a way out of a complicated situation, not knowing what to do, and that's why you asked the question?

...60.3 --5 : Could the measure considered be a more hopeful path to try to get out of this "waiting on complicated ground"?

breakmov

 

[moss elk]

Bamboo only speaks when we carve holes in it, purse our lips and blow.

 

[thisismybody]

Bamboo only speaks when we carve holes in it, purse our lips and blow.

Nailed it. Articulating for not so dummies.

 

[floranova]

Speaking as someone who lives in 'low income housing' it isn't any less safe than other housing though it does depend on location of course.

In the UK certainly it is a very very long wait for low income housing so it is never the case one can just opt for it and it is never just 'low hanging fruit' since it takes years and years to get anywhere and these days even homeless people have to wait years

In general it's a bad idea to have a good idea or option and then not go ahead because of an answer one doesn't understand. There can be no harm in going on a waiting list especially as it may be years and years before you get anywhere.

The line says

'Not like limiting means it will be like lamenting.
Not a mistake.'

That says to me it is a good idea to make definite plans rather than leave things open. It does not say to me 'no do not take a sensible move and go on low income housing list'. Agreed it's not the clearest answer, I don't know why you cast this but neither can I see why anyone on a low income wouldn't go on a social housing waiting list at least in UK. Don't know what country you are in.

I'm American and from what I've read, it's usually years here too. My lease ends much sooner than that but its better to plan for the future knowing rent prices aren't likely to go down enough for me any time soon. I'm confused by thisismybody's comment about it being potentially unsafe, all the places I looked at were very nice. My family was in homeless shelters for a time when I was in middle school so anything that isn't a mat on a cafeteria floor with no pillow sounds pretty safe to me.

 

[floranova]

Another word for 60 is "Articulating" - I wonder if that's a better fit for this one than "Limiting." Grow another segment on the bamboo stalk (go ahead and apply?), in the context of expectant waiting. If you end up no longer qualified when your number comes up, no harm done. But if you don't articulate, you might lament.

I'm not happy with how I'm explaining that - does it make any sense?

Makes total sense, thank you!

 

[floranova]

I meant low-hanging fruit as in taking the first thing or easiest thing to get, or something offered but not the thing one should want. Maybe the low-hanging fruit in this situation isn’t low-income housing or maybe it is. Not all housing is created equal.

Here in Texas, USA, location and crime ratings go hand in hand here. Safe low-income housing in Texas is definitely dependent on whether city or town and what part of the city. We also have high-end, low-income housing in cities. This is rare and wouldn’t be low-hanging fruit. Theft, mugging, etc. are higher in most of these communities, depending on the location. So is the quality of the housing. I work for a utility company and there are low-income housing projects we won’t go into without police and areas that police stay away from. I work in energy management and could list my reasons for being aware of the location of the housing, especially since I’ve responded to two hostage unit calls in the past 6 months. Seems the UK is different than Texas.

Going on waitlist doesn’t hurt anything. Low-income housing in a more stable or nicer area seems a thing one would want to articulate. But we apply to the particular housing of our choice here based on area. We call it section 8 housing. Some of it is pretty nice. Maybe floranova has this option.

…also, section 8 housing is offered by private companies and home or apt owners here.

I'm going to say something controversial.... that sounds like Texas No hate, I'm just from Utah and I feel things are significantly safer here. My uncle lives in Austin, I like the city but I wouldn't live there. But anyway, in Utah we do housing through the city/county

 

[Trojina]

60.3 is a harsh warning about the consequences of having no limitations (usually for oneself) It's a line of suffering.

I've recieved this line after spending too much money or waking up with a hangover. (See? From not respecting limitations)

You are just writing about it abstractly not applying it to the question, yet ?

 

[floranova]

that makes two of us!
No it doesn't make sense.

The word for 60 means 'joint'
As in the hard segmenting joints of bamboo. Any given segment of bamboo has hard sides on both ends, the hard spots are the limitation of a given segment: it's this big and no bigger.
Limits, edges, boundaries, amounts sufficient and not excessive...etc

In human behaviour, which Yi is often referring to, this line could refer to : doing too much of something and suffering for it. It can refer to having no boundaries.

I've recieved this line after spending too much money or waking up with a hangover. (See? From not respecting limitations)

Hmm, I'm not sure what limitations I could overstep in this situation, other than making too much money (gosh, what a problem lol) any theories?

 

[moss elk]

You are just writing about it abstractly not applying it to the question, yet ?

Yes, you got it.

My curiosity is tingling in the direction of the recent-ish events in the querents life that have led to the current situation.
I'd wager there is a story there.

 

[thisismybody]

Floranova, Utah is probably much safer than Texas, especially San Antonio, which is where I live. The I-10 corridor is a passageway for traffickers. We have really unsafe low-income housing communities here in this city. But also some nice ones. I lived in a small town in SE Texas that had a few, very nice low-income apt complexes. Not long wait times. But really restricted on income levels. I tried to live in one and was denied for making too much money.

If you get to choose, get on the waitlist since they are nice and safe where you live.

For the record, I’d like to move out of San Antonio and Texas. Red rocks are calling me. Haha

 

[Liselle]

How about something like "Limiting the Waiting"? Applying on a given day means you're on the list ahead of everyone who applies the next day. You'll at least start inching your way up, one day's worth of applicants at a time. If that's even how it works. If you don't get the inching process started, you'll lament.

"Inching process" seems like 60, because the nodes on bamboo are like a crude ruler, divided into segments

(I realize I'm fishing here, or throwing interpretation-spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks; pick your metaphor...)

 

[thisismybody]

"Inching process" seems like 60, because the nodes on bamboo are like a crude ruler, divided into segments

This sticks, for me.

 

[thisismybody]

Yes, you got it.

My curiosity is tingling in the direction of the recent-ish events in the querents life that have led to the current situation.
I'd wager there is a story there.

I feel ME has a point here. Just read this thread, floranova. https://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/index.php?threads/what-do-i-have-to-live-for-37-6-63.35972/

Maybe 60.3 is Yi’s advice to you. Limit your negative thinking and articulate the life you want. Choosing what you want to experience and feel is your power. By that I mean, things like peace, love, change, etc. High-minded things.

You’re only 22 and have a mind and imagination that can help you co-create the life you want. You have your youth and a whole life to create beyond your family karma. Once you’ve come into right relation with it.

I like Liselle’s idea of inching. An inchworm inches their way up to get to where she wants to go.

Maybe 60.3’s no limitations means disciplining yourself to change how you feel within and what you’re choosing. Maybe Yi is pointing to something deeper than answering your low-income housing question??

Edit: took mentioning myself out. But want to say 60.3 reminds me of our power through discipline to create the life we want and not accept circumstances we could improve. If we can.

 

[Liselle]

Surely she should go ahead and get her name on the list, though. Putting one's name on a list doesn't preclude also doing other things during the long waiting time.

 

[thisismybody]

Of course. Maybe I’m way off and it’s a simple answer to limit/articulate/define her stance by putting her name on the list.

 

[moss elk]

Floranova, I sincerely hope that you do not decide right now that you are going to be poor for the rest of your life. I say this with a loving heart. (to m.e., you are just a babe!, my daughter is 3 years older.) Your brain will continue to grow in size for another three years. With dedication, you can definitely improve your life.

About five years before you were born, a friend & roommate of mine decided to move to Portland and go to University. He still hasn't earned his degree. (know the joke from Portlandia about where 25 y/o's go to retire?) He decided on an unhealthy, self induldgent and therefore self-defeating lifestyle at an early age and has stuck with it.

Best of luck.

 

[breakmov]

Building on the idea in #12,

to seek a solution that helps to realize the idea of making a decisive break in the "difficult and complicated terrain that has been faced so far", aspiring to a set of measures that makes you more autonomous and responsible for your own path.

breakmov

 

[floranova]

Yes, you got it.

My curiosity is tingling in the direction of the recent-ish events in the querents life that have led to the current situation.
I'd wager there is a story there.

A long story. My life has been interesting. 🫠 Long family history of poverty and abuse and substance use and mental illness. It's not easy to break out of such deep patterns

 

[floranova]

Floranova, Utah is probably much safer than Texas, especially San Antonio, which is where I live. The I-10 corridor is a passageway for traffickers. We have really unsafe low-income housing communities here in this city. But also some nice ones. I lived in a small town in SE Texas that had a few, very nice low-income apt complexes. Not long wait times. But really restricted on income levels. I tried to live in one and was denied for making too much money.

If you get to choose, get on the waitlist since they are nice and safe where you live.

For the record, I’d like to move out of San Antonio and Texas. Red rocks are calling me. Haha

Yikes Thats so scary. If Utah wasn't so expensive I would definitely stay. I didn't realize as a kid how lucky I was to grow up on such a gorgeous piece of land but it looks like west coast people have caught on. I imagine coming here from Los Angeles is so refreshing. Sad for me that I can't afford it but I can't blame them haha