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The big question always being: where do these things come from? Easy to say, from the Collective Unconscious or some such name for it, but it doesn't explain it, really.
It seems on topic.
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Thanks anyway,
L
You are very welcome.:bows:
Can I ask something? You sign sometimes as Luis, are you from Spanish birth? If I find some of that literature you requested in Spanish, you want it also?:
Lauree
Yes, I am. English is my second language.
L
Recomienda lo que tengas a mano. Puedo leerlo.
L
I see that Spanish is a learned language for you or you wouldn't be concerned about those minor differences... Quite good actually, I must say. I've no problems reading anything that looks like Spanish, from any source, including Catalán...
L
I am afraid I must disagree. The way of less resistance is neither the easy lazy way nor the indulgence way, it is simply the way which allows you to make more way, travel longer distances and arrive more places without the loss of time, resources and effort of needing to fight with obstacles unnecessarily.
Character (in my opinion) is created by study, understanding and the challenge to discover how to improve your life or the life of others, which is what is behind 99% of your acts since birth. Confrontation, suffering and battle are not, in my opinion, a necessary ingredient for self definition, other situations as the need to help others, the need to discover yourself and the need to discover what life is about and how Universe works can also provide you self definition, thrust and a never resting- always flowing spirit. A life in full connection and in best of lucks is still unpredictable and needing own effort, what is best about it is that all the resources and effort and time you will save from dealing with confrontations, you will be able to use in helping others and yourself and in discovering more about all. Do you believe wise ancient master retired to become better because they needed confrontation? Have you seen or heard about many true masters born out from confrontation and challenge ?
However, this difference of opinion, doesn't make you and me different or in opposition just because we differ, all by the contrary, ultimately we are thinking the same, flow is necessary, change is necessary, influence of other's waves in ours is necessary, unpredictabilitty is necessary and to have intention self define us.:bows:.
OK,. Do you have or have access to "Comentarios y anotaciones del I Ching" authored by Navarro y Oviedo? Is from 1971, Argentina, a short run by editorial Kier I believe but I am not sure. I don't have it and never could find it, but I found some notes in my papers about a full chapter there on the subject of apocryphal I Ching versions which may interest you. I only saw the book once at the Instituto de Psicologia y Parapsicologia de Montevideo Uruguay in the end of the '70s, it was borrowed to me a couple of days and I took notes but never owned or found the book again, if you have it or find it I will be most interested in getting a copy also...
Thanks for the reference to Navarro Oviedo's work. Are you Uruguayan? I am...
L
Actually, I'm not sure we disagree. I'm just putting out ideas at this point, and when I read this last bit you wrote, I found myself liking it. I mean, why make life more difficult than it has to be, right? I think there's something in what you say about moving smoothly through life that counterbalances what I was saying about learning from life's challenges.
I would like to know if anyone here uses young and old lines in the trigrams or only young lines and also if someone works with moving lines. Furthermore if someone uses the "flow of trigrams" technique or only the "fix" results.
My preferred explanation (my opinion only, not trying to recruit believers please) is "Sudden Connection" or the "Theory of the Spontaneous Web" by which you normally link and keep an invisible link to everything you see or touch or imagine in your life, but sometimes, because synchronicity, entrainment, entanglement or simply affinity at some moment at some point, you create a link to what you have never seen or touched or imagine before, that link will "carry" you early or later to it or if that is in another time, to a remain or a representation of it. That face and its owner could have been more close to you of what you dare to think...
That makes sense, Laureet, thanks. Except that it was the face's closeness to me which made it so intense. I knew I was looking at myself.
Hi Laureet,
I thing this is a good opportunity to start a brand new thread with this discussion.
L
Sparhawk: About you request for pointing some books which could give you some insight in ancient Ryukyuan religion and divinations as well as their use of PMs and Yijing or similar practices.
Do you believe wise ancient master retired to become better because they needed confrontation? Have you seen or heard about many true masters born out from confrontation and challenge ?
Have you got "Confucius Heidegger and the philosophy of the I Ching: Inquiry into the truth of human being" by Chung-ying Cheng ?
The way these symbols operate sounds a little like the experiments with entangled atoms they've been doing at CERN and other such places.
I am not a scholar, so I lack some of the basis for understanding the "how" of symbols (as opposed to the what and the why, which I have explored in private) - I am enjoying educating myself! - but I would be curious to know how the PM "works" (if that is the correct word), when compared to other, more general symbols. Is it auto-suggestion, or is there something inherently magical, for want of a better word, established between the PM and the person? I can see that having a form that corresponds to when we were born would be special, but I am not sure I understand why, or how. Do twins have the same PM? Are toki-moai related to our DNA?
Yes...I know, sorry about that ... :bows:a Latin temperament :
But it can be faced with dignity and a kind of akido of the soul.
No, although that is a journal article and not a book. It can be found as a chapter in New Dimensions of Confucian and Neo-Confucian Philosophy,though.
I'll mark the book in my Amazon Wishlist. Thanks.
L
If the Universe is a sea in one way or other, when we born we disrupt in some way the form of that sea (through addition of a new element, us) and the Universe needs to necessarily accept us and adapt around us (the importance of the single drop which may be the one overflowing the border in the glass of water). So basically when we born we create a form or imprint around us which connects us with the Universe, our contact-shell if you want. We will, for all our lives touch the universe and the universe will touch us through that point of contact, that form. We are probably also recognized at any time and place (located) through the Universe's recognition of our "form". So, when we move in space or time, our form produces a pattern in the sea of the Universe, particular and specific to us. Now, what happen when in some way we manage to reproduce the same pattern or form-shape in a place of space or time where we are not (yet) ? That "imprint" will naturally have the tendency to be filled and what will be mostly attracted to fill the hole? Something with its very same shape and form...us! If you have circular holes in a surface, what will be attracted there and remains there will be circular or spherical bodies, right? and if you make three marks in the circle, only spheres with three indentations will be caught there right? So, in a crude way may be this could explain (in my opinion) how this could work.
If you go to a pond of water and near a floating leave or so you poke the water creating a disturbance of more or less the size of the floating object, the floating object will be attracted to it... that is a kind of event and how you fall in it, if instead you draw a line in the water in front of the floating object, with the same width and similar shape than the object, the object will follow the line... how much it follows will depend how much you imprint and imprint the line at front and how much the depression in the water is similar and can accomodate the floating object... If it works like that in Nature, probably works on us as well in all dimensions... "As it is above it is below..."
Now, what happen when in some way we manage to reproduce the same pattern or form-shape in a place of space or time where we are not (yet) ?
Clarity,
Office 17622,
PO Box 6945,
London.
W1A 6US
United Kingdom
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