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Pouring your whole self into beginning something - lavishing care and attention into polishing each buckle of your horses' harness, taking out a second mortgage to buy the chariot, putting your whole self on the line... - when it's never going to get off the ground. And if you stay here, you won't have enough blood left in you to start anything new.
Any thoughts on 17.6 ?
well i checked out my Portable Dragon (cheating, looking for clues) and the commentary is The sage, who is retired, is recalled by the king because of his unique qualifications. The faithful and effective subject is rewarded
So how is that an endgame ? Aha I get it, its an endgame for the ones who had no real talent who were there only because of their nobility, looks etc who were blind followers.
Hmm then isn't it a highpoint for the ones who have real skill and an end game for those who don't ? So 17.6 could be either depending on ones relation to the question one has asked ? Wondering why you always see it as endgame then ?
So, high point or endgame? The strength of the connection and following suggests high point, but what's the nature of that sacrifice? Is it a sacrifice that rides on the strength of the connection and following? That would be high point. Or does it sacrifice the connection and following (because the time of following is fading)? That would be endgame.
I don't know. The link to Hex 25 doesn't help me, either.
Your call.
Daunting and slippery, to say the least.
I'm tending toward the former. You have to be able to sustain a certain amount of dynamic tension in order for good things to happen, and the former interpretation allows for that; indeed, it exploits it and supports it simultaneously. That would be high point, then.
Lindsay said:The first part of it is anyone's guess. In Chinese:
ju1 - seized, captured
xi4 - bound, tied up
zhi1 - they, them
Possibly: "they are seized and tied up"
nai3 - then, after this
cong2 - follow, pursue
wei2 - tied up, held fast
zhi1 - they, them
Possibly: "then those who follow are tied up"
What does this mean? Beats me. I have looked at 15 translations by scholars familiar with old Chinese, and there are 15 different interpretations. If anyone says they know the exact meaning, I would question that claim seriously.
... Would you agree that the "pivot" character in the line is (zhi1) 之? It is used as a pronoun but it has other meanings. According to Wieger, the original meanings were progress, development, continuity... it is used as a modifier, pronoun and, very important, as a possessive (i.e. its, his/hers)... as an exercise (not saying it is correct...), try to substitute the "modern" pronoun usage of zhi1 for some of the original meaning of the character...
... Signific: 之 remnant
Etymology: ... A foot print pointing forward, Cursive form of 止
... ShuoWen: 出也象艸過屮枝莖益大有所之一者地也凡之之屬皆從之
... English Senses For zhi1: to go to / to leave for / to arrive at / zigzag / winding / an expletive / third person objective case ( it / her / him / them ) / ( this / that / these / those / ( possessive particle ) of
http://www.chineseetymology.org/Cha...aspx?characterInput=之&submitButton1=Etymology
Um andar de gacela, una cinturita de avispa, piel de terciopelo, cabellos de lino, manos de Eurídice, ¡qué garota Dios mío! unos piecitos... pequeñicos... unos pies cúbicos, el talón de Aquiles, la nuez moscada y la lengua muerta, los ojos de buey, palmas de Mallorca, nalgas marinas, y um pubis, tenía um pubis...
JM: Pubis pro nobis.
Les Luthiers: http://www.peseatodo.com.ar/re74d.htm
Luis:
From Sears Chinese Etymology, an oracle bone 之zhi character:
Well, I don't think it looks like a female pubis standing on anything, but, I really like the way you think...Sears says it's a footprint, but the modern shape looks like «the mark of the Zorro» meanwhile oracle bone character looks like a female pubis standing on an horizontal stroke.
It's a cactus, not a pubis. Easy mistake to make, though.
... I don't think it looks like a female pubis standing on anything...
Perhaps Brad or Harmen have some more educated ideas about this character ...
(1) 愛執 The grip of love and desire.
(2) 革 Skins, hides, pelts; strip, cut off.
(3)莫 Not; none; no; do not; ... contrary (to wishes).
(4) 說 To speak, say, talk, discourse, expound; speech, etc. Used for 悅 pleased.
Firsth of all, thanks for the scans. Wieger issuing stands close to the Dobro's cactus, but don't trust all the things Wieger says, most often he isn't but another dirty guy.
"Embrace (cherish) it and relate with it. (Only) then follow and catch it. The king offers a sacrifice at the Western Mountain."
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I hope I am not disturbing anything, have to read most of the posts yet, but this came up.. so..
LiSe
Could it be that 17.6 has to do with catching things? Fishing for salmon, but you can only catch it if you can think like salmon, become salmon. Become the deer, become the rabbit.
"Embrace (cherish) it and relate with it. (Only) then follow and catch it. The king offers a sacrifice at the Western Mountain."
Interesting is that one of the meanings of wei2 'catch' is netting.
I hope I am not disturbing anything, have to read most of the posts yet, but this came up.. so..
LiSe
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