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Originally Posted by hilary View Post
Thing is, I'm completely incapable of thinking of a number between 1 and 64 without thinking of its hexagram 'personality' at the same time. So you're basically asking me to choose two hexagrams... is that the result you want, or are you looking for something to reveal what I don't already know I'm thinking about? (As if so, I think one of us had better pull out the coins/ stalks/ beads.)
Hilary,
As I understand it, you miss the point of Frank's simple lesson to Chris on divination.
Chris' ignorance of history, philosophy and traditional thought is evident, as is his wrong belief in the "primitive" understanding of previous generations. His lack of understanding of how divination works is understandable because he has never learned how consciousness works and how to study it . Frank correctly described a simple method to practice, which, if Chris made the effort to try, could lead him to begin to understand the nature of divination. I had noted in my exchanges with Chris that he reminded of the little "idiot" boy who couldn't learn to milk cows. The boy wasn't stupid: He knew if he didn't know how to milk cows, he wouldn't have to milk cows.In Chris' case , "clever is stupid." He doesn't want to learn.
Chris' theories about symmetric and assymetric thought, "neurolgy" and the nature of consciousness are typical of contemporary materialistic thought. The current buzzword for this thought is " post- modernism," although it is based on the same post-Enlightenment , materialistic dogmas that are accepted by Darwinists, some occultists and "New Agers," Fundamentalists, Marxists, Atheists and the reductionist materialistic scientists. Chris' "I Ching" is not the I Ching, rather an invented theoretical system, based on false ideas that he has applied to it. His "I Chingism" is not essentially different from Marxism, religious Fundamentalism, Darwinism, Atheism, etc.
A poster child for the "post-modernism" Chris espouses is Professor Dawkins.*Dawkins is an example of contemporary intellectuals'' failure to fully develop a normal consciousness and, in fact, to become increasingly less conscious and abnormal . Erich Fromm analysed this decline correctly in the 1940's when he wrote, "The problem of the 19th century was that God is dead. The problem of the 20th century is that Man is dead." In the Third Millenium, we are forgetting what it means to be human. Traditional wisdom describes the appearance of Space and Time as a movement from the pole of Essence or Forma to the pole of Substance or Materia. This applies to the universe and also on the scale of human cultures. In early stages of the development of the universe , space dominates and the form of things and is more important and more real than the changes they undergo. In succeeding ages, however, time takes over, accelerating the flow of change and melting down space and the forms within it. Humans become more materialistic, denser and heavier as time rushes forward in the final cycle and civilization disintegrates. Time stops, its "The End of Days." Bring on the Messiah or Purusha. An indication of End Times is the erosion of the energy barrier between the material plane and the world of subtle forces which humans have lost the knowledge of how to discipline,cultivate internally and control consciously. 'Things fall apart, the center doesn't hold.' People become mechanical slaves to the force of Time because they have lost an inner awareness of Space - indeed,, of their identity as persons or a sense of having meaning in life. The I Ching teaches how to live harmoniously in a universe in which Space and Time work together in Heaven, Earth and Man. We can experience the energies of Tao and Te and learn how to use them through study of the I Ching. It can be a guide to self-study. Divination is one secondary or complementary approach to its study.
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* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_helmet
A report of an experiment on Richard Dawkins in 2003 :
Dawkins was reported not to have experienced a religious feeling, ratiher a headache and "noise." Dr Persinger explained the lack of religious effects. t'Before donning the helmet, Prof Dawkins had scored low on a psychological scale measuring temporal lobe sensitivity.'
The God helmet was designed after earlier research on pathological cases with temporal lobe epilepsy, a neurological disorder caused by chaotic electrical discharges in the temporal lobes of the brain, who seemed to experience devout hallucinations that bear a striking resemblance to the mystical experiences of holy figures such as St Paul and Moses. Such associations have been noted by researchers for over a century, including Dr. Wilder Penfield's work, published in the 1950s.
http://videos.gaia.com/324844/persinger_and_dawkins
"A short clip from the Horizon documentary - God on the brain - showing Richard Dawkins volunteering to participate in one of Michael Persinger's experiments - in an attempt to experience god."
http://current.com/items/88832741_richard-dawkins-puts-on-the-god-helmet.htm
Originally Posted by hilary View Post
Thing is, I'm completely incapable of thinking of a number between 1 and 64 without thinking of its hexagram 'personality' at the same time. So you're basically asking me to choose two hexagrams... is that the result you want, or are you looking for something to reveal what I don't already know I'm thinking about? (As if so, I think one of us had better pull out the coins/ stalks/ beads.)
Hilary,
As I understand it, you miss the point of Frank's simple lesson to Chris on divination.
Chris' ignorance of history, philosophy and traditional thought is evident, as is his wrong belief in the "primitive" understanding of previous generations. His lack of understanding of how divination works is understandable because he has never learned how consciousness works and how to study it . Frank correctly described a simple method to practice, which, if Chris made the effort to try, could lead him to begin to understand the nature of divination. I had noted in my exchanges with Chris that he reminded of the little "idiot" boy who couldn't learn to milk cows. The boy wasn't stupid: He knew if he didn't know how to milk cows, he wouldn't have to milk cows.In Chris' case , "clever is stupid." He doesn't want to learn.
Chris' theories about symmetric and assymetric thought, "neurolgy" and the nature of consciousness are typical of contemporary materialistic thought. The current buzzword for this thought is " post- modernism," although it is based on the same post-Enlightenment , materialistic dogmas that are accepted by Darwinists, some occultists and "New Agers," Fundamentalists, Marxists, Atheists and the reductionist materialistic scientists. Chris' "I Ching" is not the I Ching, rather an invented theoretical system, based on false ideas that he has applied to it. His "I Chingism" is not essentially different from Marxism, religious Fundamentalism, Darwinism, Atheism, etc.
A poster child for the "post-modernism" Chris espouses is Professor Dawkins.*Dawkins is an example of contemporary intellectuals'' failure to fully develop a normal consciousness and, in fact, to become increasingly less conscious and abnormal . Erich Fromm analysed this decline correctly in the 1940's when he wrote, "The problem of the 19th century was that God is dead. The problem of the 20th century is that Man is dead." In the Third Millenium, we are forgetting what it means to be human. Traditional wisdom describes the appearance of Space and Time as a movement from the pole of Essence or Forma to the pole of Substance or Materia. This applies to the universe and also on the scale of human cultures. In early stages of the development of the universe , space dominates and the form of things and is more important and more real than the changes they undergo. In succeeding ages, however, time takes over, accelerating the flow of change and melting down space and the forms within it. Humans become more materialistic, denser and heavier as time rushes forward in the final cycle and civilization disintegrates. Time stops, its "The End of Days." Bring on the Messiah or Purusha. An indication of End Times is the erosion of the energy barrier between the material plane and the world of subtle forces which humans have lost the knowledge of how to discipline,cultivate internally and control consciously. 'Things fall apart, the center doesn't hold.' People become mechanical slaves to the force of Time because they have lost an inner awareness of Space - indeed,, of their identity as persons or a sense of having meaning in life. The I Ching teaches how to live harmoniously in a universe in which Space and Time work together in Heaven, Earth and Man. We can experience the energies of Tao and Te and learn how to use them through study of the I Ching. It can be a guide to self-study. Divination is one secondary or complementary approach to its study.
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* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_helmet
A report of an experiment on Richard Dawkins in 2003 :
Dawkins was reported not to have experienced a religious feeling, ratiher a headache and "noise." Dr Persinger explained the lack of religious effects. t'Before donning the helmet, Prof Dawkins had scored low on a psychological scale measuring temporal lobe sensitivity.'
The God helmet was designed after earlier research on pathological cases with temporal lobe epilepsy, a neurological disorder caused by chaotic electrical discharges in the temporal lobes of the brain, who seemed to experience devout hallucinations that bear a striking resemblance to the mystical experiences of holy figures such as St Paul and Moses. Such associations have been noted by researchers for over a century, including Dr. Wilder Penfield's work, published in the 1950s.
http://videos.gaia.com/324844/persinger_and_dawkins
"A short clip from the Horizon documentary - God on the brain - showing Richard Dawkins volunteering to participate in one of Michael Persinger's experiments - in an attempt to experience god."
http://current.com/items/88832741_richard-dawkins-puts-on-the-god-helmet.htm
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