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How to not expect the worst? and Yi's answer, 52.2.6 to 46.

Irmamata

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I am way too shut down because I keep expecting the worst, as in not wanting to be dissapointed. This obviously doesn't work, no one is ever powerful enough to challenge fate. But I just refuse to trust life. I just don't like it, and don't want to get too involved in it. I maintain myself somewhere around the surface. I am definitely not willing to jump, most likely because I am not willing to fall in deep waters. I am stubborn, definitely. Turns out, we end up falling anyhow. Or this just doesn't work because we will end up getting tired and drowning. I am ok in my head, and blocked in my heart. I don't know how I have managed that so far, but something tells me it might not work forever, this surface thing I do. So I think I must try some change, but I just don't know how to. I have been like this for as long as I can remember. So I asked: How to not expect the worst from fate? and Yi's answer, 52.2.6 to 46.
Seems like the I Ching told me I am keeping still but should push upwards, as in describing my life, but how - I can't interpret the lines to get the how... Can anyone see the message, the how, the "stop expecting the worst for dummies" in these lines?
Thank-you for your kindness.
 

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I feel for your situation but notice you cast 52.2 here before, had plenty of replies but never came back to either thank, acknowledge or comment in any regard?

https://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/fri...al-treatment-for-depression-52-2-to-18.25977/

You could reread those comments perhaps they will help you now. There seem to be many people who post and get lots of help and just don't come back then post another thread with more questions :???: I don't know the reason in each case of course but it does put me off responding to them further.
 
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Dear Trojina,

I am sorry you feel that way. I cannot speak for others, but I can try and speak for myself.

As you can see here, I usually do answer the threads:





This is worth what it’s worth, but I would like you to know I do feel grateful towards who takes their time to answer me. As of why I didn’t ever come back to that one specific thread you mentioned, I really don’t know. I might have decided to let the feedback to answer later on, hoping i would have something new to add about the interpretation of the Iching on that line. Maybe. But anyway, you are right. It was not nice of me not to come back and at least say another thank-you to the kind people who answered, and tried to help me.

I did a search before posting this last thread this morning, and the one you refer to did not show up. Perhaps because I searched 52 to 46.

Thank you for your time.
 

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Sorry Irmamata, I can see you usually reply it was just that one thread. It happens so often if one is a long term respondent it can grate but in your case clearly it was just a one off.

So I asked: How to not expect the worst from fate? and Yi's answer, 52.2.6 to 46.

Well I guess if fate has dealt some harsh blows it's pretty hard not to expect more so you may be being too hard on yourself to expect yourself not to expect the worst if indeed the worst has happened a number of times.

The lines
'Keeping your calves still,
Not rescuing your following.
Your heart not glad.'

'Great-hearted keeping still.
Good fortune.'

Taking my own comments from wiki on 52.2
Have found the 'motion' is often strong 'emotion'. One wants to be able to turn feelings off in order to find some inner peace but one can't, one just has to ride it out, its painful . For example falling in love with someone it would be much better not to. You might want to pull back, save yourself from the pain of it but you've already 'fallen' and the momentum is too strong to just cut off the feelings. The useful thing to know is it fruitless to continue trying to save yourself and not feel the feelings, you just have to go through it, otherwise 52.3 would arise, even more painful suppression. Trojan.

The one you may be aiming to rescue may be a future self. This line saying sadly you cannot prepare that future self for what is to come. Trojina

I have also had this line many times when wanting to save others and not being able to. This is a painful line IMO. I think it can be less so once one accepts the pain, accepts what one cannot do. With heartache one wants to switch it off and move forward but to some extent one just has to live through the pain fighting it less.

Perhaps your expectation of harshness from fate really isn't something you can just switch off and also it's not a failing on your part. I think your answer emphasises this, your answer is counselling you to not fret at all about this tendency, to let it be and to be very present in each moment rather than look back or forward to evaluate even your own thinking patterns. 46 I feel has much to do with outgrowing, moving beyond, striving upwards.

I think you can get out from this tendency in thinking, I think it can naturally happen, there's growth in 46 but I don't think you can deal with it through effort right now but through acceptance and stillness.

It's amazing how often 52 comes up for me with self evaluation questions. It's basically Yi asking you to stop evaluating what is going on in your head.

52.6 is lovely of course and it shows you getting to a point of peace with it. Also 52 doesn't have to mean being quiet in meditation it can also mean just being very much in the moment. If you have thoughts you don't want when drinking your coffee focus straight on the flavour of the coffee and the way the sun makes patterns in the kitchen or whatever. I really do think it's one of those answers where Yi says 'never mind that, just be here, it's enough to be here and all beyond that needn't concern you now and your badly behaved thoughts can be ignored just like the people in the courtyard can be ignored. You know they are there but there's no need to engage with them'.




Your thoughts can be seen as the people in the Oracle for 52

'Keeping your back still,
Not grasping your self.
Moving in your rooms,
Not seeing your people.
Not a mistake.'

The Image - that is your ideal behaviour for this question is

'Joined mountains.
Keeping still.
The noble one reflects, and does not come forth from his situation.'

You aren't going actively out to meet the problem of expecting the worse, you ignore it, you enjoy the place you are right at this moment instead.
 
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Thank-you Trojina, for your response. It's helping. I must let these thoughts sink in a little more, I can't express much for now, but I'm sure I will... ❤️
 

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So I asked: How to not expect the worst from fate? and Yi's answer, 52.2.6 to 46.

Seems like the I Ching told me I am keeping still but should push upwards, as in describing my life, but how - I can't interpret the lines to get the how... Can anyone see the message, the how, the "stop expecting the worst for dummies" in these lines?
Hex 52 meaning 'stilling it'
Hex 46 meaning 'things don't simply come to you'

The reading is confirming that you live in a world in which do not find it at all easy (46) to come to a place of stillness (52) or to find stability. Without stability you cannot aspire to your destiny and so remain bedraggled by your fate. The reason for this, and perhaps the greatest challenge for you in all this comes from the deep driving forces behind 50, which call for you to pardon mistakes and deal gently with misdeeds' (40). This is the challenge that has to be met by you to free yourself from always expecting the worse from fate. Always being caught up in the negative.

52 guides you to stop your old behaviours and thoughts and to spend more time looking inward, unconditionally and non judgementally.

52.2 - looks at the imbalances in your inner world and how you are always looking to rescue the people around you rather than putting yourself first. This old calling is not what you need to be listening to. It is time to put begin to put yourself first.

52.6 - The culmination of your inner work will mean that you will be able to walk in a world surrounded by new boundaries. A world where more honesty and less self deceit abides and one that will bring nothing other than good fortune to you.

..or it might mean nothing like that for you.

Good Luck.
 

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I just don't like it.
I've never been the type of person with lust for life. I can't love life and don't understand people who are thirsty for it, want to live forever, procreate, are overly cautious and fear dangers too much. I've been like that as long as I remember, it doesn't depend on my moods or problems. Even in my happiest, most enthusiastic state I can't be in love with life.

and don't want to get too involved in it.
For a long time I felt like I was suspended between the sky and the earth, as if what happened around didn't touch me, I was just an observer, or everything passed through me like a ghost. I wasn't really involved, nor learned the rules. Many days when I woke up I asked my heart (!) "what do I do here?" I didn't feel my foots really on the earth, let alone belonging to it.

Around the age 27-28 I finally started to put my feet on the earth; of course I'm a newbie, others are much more forward. They are woven with the life's wrap & weft, so involved, so aware of everyday matters. This unattached state & slight dizziness (an Aquarius Moon trait?) is so obvious that some classmates & coworkers noticed and pointed it- in different places and phases of my life- with a variety of terms such as being in another world, contemplation, etc. I even guess some imagined I used drugs- I've never done it.

So I think I can understand you; at least at some level. Now:
How to not expect the worst from fate? 52.2.6 to 46.
By keeping still, in the sense of not worrying, not being over reactive, being receptive to some extent so that you're not moved with every external element, and accepting that you can't save everything. Keep calm. Then things start to improve slow by slow.
 

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My_key, what you said about 52 sounds a lot like it will help me.
Marybluesky, I used to have a lust for life. It was this strong joy and enthusiasm in everything I did. My students from over 15 years ago still send me happy birthday and Merry Christmas messages. I think I should try and get back a bit of that energy I had, and you guys all helped me find a way to stand up and go towards life and get myself more involved. Lets see if I can keep it up.
The previous thread Trojina linked here will also be very helpful. ❤️ Thank-you all for your insights.

Cheers
 

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